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Originally posted by FMFYet amazingly even after reading my account afresh you cannot say exactly what made you think that I was abused. And neither can you correct your geester pal who claims that I copied and pasted it. Sorry old chap but you are stalling here.
In a fix? Not at all. Indeed, I see you as hoisting yourself by your own petard and it's interesting to witness. Especially after reading your account afresh. In the meantime I am not willing to indulge you by giving you the thread and page number. Consider it a gesture of my personal lack of respect for you.
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Originally posted by dj2becker"I grew up in a legalistic 'Christian cult' where I was indoctrinated from a young age to believe that the teachings of my church was true and that all other churches that didn't believe exactly what we believed were lost. I was indoctrinated to follow laws that weren't even in the Bible. I was not allowed to talk to the opposite sex, watch tv, listen to non Christian music etc, and believed that I needed to confess every bad thought that I had to a counsellor in the church who would pray with me for God to forgive me. Women in our church were not allowed to wear trousers or jewelry, and you weren't allowed to be romantically involved with the person you wanted to marry. You had to marry someone from the same church. You had to 'hear from God' who the person was that you were going to marry and you weren't even allowed to talk to them before you got married. Anyone who questioned the rules of this church were excommunicated and everyone in the church believed they were going to hell and shunned them like lepers. I was born into the church and for 24 years I believed that everything they taught was the absolute truth. Parents would disown their children if they decided to leave. "
Yet amazingly even after reading my account afresh you cannot say exactly what made you think that I was abused. And neither can you correct your geester pal who claims that I copied and pasted it. Sorry old chap but you are stalling here.
Sure sounds like abuse to me.
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Originally posted by FMFWell, the site he linked to said:
And just how would you characterize what those people said about their experiences?
"True stories of broken people and destroyed families, of obscure traditions and rituals, of excessive beatings and virginity tests, of obscure credit transactions and diamond deals, of debts involving millions, of secret agent activities supporting the apartheid regime."
Perhaps he has a different understanding of what constitutes abuse?
05 Jun 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeHere's more:
Well, the site he linked to said:
"True stories of broken people and destroyed families, of obscure traditions and rituals, of excessive beatings and virginity tests, of obscure credit transactions and diamond deals, of debts involving millions, of secret agent activities supporting the apartheid regime."
Perhaps he has a different understanding of what constitutes abuse?
"Painful and, at times, extremely hurtful personal experiences, insights and observations have driven us to expose the dubious and disreputable practices of the mission that are even brutal and disregard human dignity."
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeThat will be presumably be the tack he will take now, and he may attach the label "universal truth" to the wriggling, squiggling personal definition of "abuse" and "deprivation" he comes up with, for good measure.
Perhaps he has a different understanding of what constitutes abuse?
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05 Jun 17
Originally posted by FMFAnd let's not forget:
Here's more:
"Painful and, at times, extremely hurtful personal experiences, insights and observations have driven us to expose the dubious and disreputable practices of the mission that are even brutal and disregard human dignity."
"A dictatorial system, in which only submissive servants can live well. But where independent thinking and acting people are marginalised and stigmatised with military precision. Kwasizabantu has made itself God’s watchman who punishes any contraventions of written Old and New Testament rules as well as its own un-written laws, often with brutal harshness whereby respect of human dignity is ignored."
