22 Sep 20
@philokalia saidLets try that.
The word natural here refers to the unforced & often-seen nature of the inclination. Like how it is more natural for a Muslim, or even a person who is an ex-Muslim from an Muslim home, to wash their feet standing up or to perhaps have a more conservative view of sexuality than, say, a Swede.
Moreover, there is a unforced & often-seen inclination among Americans to believe that big government decreases your liberty, and that the efforts of private individuals are sufficient.
I think you are missing the word "some". Twice probably.
there is a some inclination among someAmericans
that would better reflect the truth don't you think?
@wolfgang59 saidNo, not really.
Lets try that.
Moreover, there is a unforced & often-seen inclination among Americans to believe that big government decreases your liberty, and that the efforts of private individuals are sufficient.
I think you are missing the word "some". Twice probably.
there is a some inclination among someAmericans
that would better reflect the truth don't you think?
I think it would be watering down the truth and using overly cautious language.
You have a very interesting hobby, Wolfgang: Instead of making new, interesting posts, or engaging with posts by throwing our you ideas, you just go about nitpicking other's language.
Have you been officially signed onto the FMF alliance now that GOAD has gone, and are trying to emulate the posting style of your master?
@philokalia saidHaha.
From the Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8744095/Churchs-woke-advert-featuring-bearded-Jesus-womens-breasts-sparks-outrage.html
Why stop there? They should've made Jesus Asian, disabled, breastfeeding a child while making out with a man and wearing hijab.
22 Sep 20
@philokalia saidIn what way is it watering down the truth?
I think it would be watering down the truth and using overly cautious language.
Do you not think it best to be cautious when making bold, unsubstantiated claims?
22 Sep 20
@philokalia saidI'm not nitpicking, I'm questioning the essence of your posts. I haven't even
You have a very interesting hobby, Wolfgang: Instead of making new, interesting posts, or engaging with posts by throwing our you ideas, you just go about nitpicking other's language.
begun to take apart your grammar.
Now - why do you want to turn a debate into a personal attack?
22 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidOh man, the grammar police is going John Paul Jones on me.
I'm not nitpicking, I'm questioning the essence of your posts. I haven't even
begun to take apart your grammar.
Now - why do you want to turn a debate into a personal attack?
What'll I do?!
22 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidHow is it unsubstantiated?
In what way is it watering down the truth?
Do you not think it best to be cautious when making bold, unsubstantiated claims?
It is common knowledge that the US has far less social welfare programs than its foreign counterparts. Its frequently stated that the US is the only modern, developed country without national healthcare.
It is an issue for which Americans have consistently stuck out.
Americans are also known for the trait of 'rugged individualism'
Professors study this as a subject specifically for Americans:
https://www.bu.edu/econ/files/2017/03/Frontier-Culture-The-Roots-and-Persistence-of-%E2%80%9CRugged-Individualism%E2%80%9D-in-the-United-States-2.pdf
Is it changing? Sure. The demographics of America itself are changing.
But, American culture has this heritage, and many Americans still have these attitudes.
Constantly tiptoeing around the words we use is pointless.
22 Sep 20
@philokalia saidYou should choose your words more wisely.
Constantly tiptoeing around the words we use is pointless.
23 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidI certainly don't think that, and that furthermore, the efforts of private, rich individuals is entirely insufficient.
Lets try that.
Moreover, there is a unforced & often-seen inclination among Americans to believe that big government decreases your liberty, and that the efforts of private individuals are sufficient.
I think you are missing the word "some". Twice probably.
there is a some inclination among someAmericans
that would better reflect the truth don't you think?
Some Americans, indeed. Reagan Republicans.
23 Sep 20
@philokalia saidYes, and this is NOT something to be proud of.
It is common knowledge that the US has far less social welfare programs than its foreign counterparts. Its frequently stated that the US is the only modern, developed country without national healthcare.
It is an issue for which Americans have consistently stuck out.
Not exactly loving our neighbor as we love ourselves, now, is it?
24 Sep 20
@suzianne saidOK, insert typical argument about how the US gives far more to charity than our socialist counterparts, etc.
Yes, and this is NOT something to be proud of.
Not exactly loving our neighbor as we love ourselves, now, is it?
Insert explanation of how the free market would be acting better without market inhibitors.
etc.
These are old arguments. We don't have to painstakingly go through them.
24 Sep 20
@philokalia saidThat figure is horribly distorted by the amount Americans give to their churches.
OK, insert typical argument about how the US gives far more to charity than our socialist counterparts, etc.
Get some statistics on what international charities get per person from different countries.
(e.g. Save the Children, World Vision, Médecins Sans Frontières, ...)
24 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidMany churches sustain communities through their donations. You cannot possibly ask those donations to be discounted.
That figure is horribly distorted by the amount Americans give to their churches.
Get some statistics on what international charities get per person from different countries.
(e.g. Save the Children, World Vision, Médecins Sans Frontières, ...)