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Instead, I now have these titles lined up...

Consciousness: How Our Brains Turn Matter into Meaning by John Parrington

Religious Appeals in Power Politics: Religion and Conflict by Peter S. Henne

Kinds of Minds: Toward an Understanding of Consciousness by Daniel C. Dennett

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Your quote actually provided a contradiction to the Amos quote provided by PettyTalk, not a prediction.

"God does not shout. He speaks quietly and softly, in a “still small voice” (1 Kings 19:11-12).

‘The Lord roars from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem" (Amos 1:2).


The Bible is full of such contradictions. Thanks for highlighting one.
Yes, full of contradictions specifically written for the attention of the intellectuals?

What are we to make with those noted contradictions? Flashing neon lights?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Your quote actually provided a contradiction to the Amos quote provided by PettyTalk, not a prediction.

"God does not shout. He speaks quietly and softly, in a “still small voice” (1 Kings 19:11-12).

‘The Lord roars from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem" (Amos 1:2).


The Bible is full of such contradictions. Thanks for highlighting one.
There's no contradiction if one realizes that God does both shout and speaks in a still small voice.

So obvious that it is silly not to comprehend it.

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@fmf said
I am curious about what claims the book will make.
From my perspective, I think the author will demonstrate that God created man with the inherent capability and capacity, built in to his being and substance, to know, hear, speak with, walk with, and enjoy God as no other created beings.

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@fmf said
Yep. I meant to type prediction.
That's a fact.

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@pettytalk said
Yes, full of contradictions specifically written for the attention of the intellectuals?

What are we to make with those noted contradictions? Flashing neon lights?
Apparent contradictions specifically written for those intellectuals that pretend to discern truth while denying "the word of truth".

Reminds me of what Jesus said about the "wise and prudent", and subsequently thanked God for revealing truth to us plain folks. 🤔

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@josephw said
There's no contradiction if one realizes that God does both shout and speaks in a still small voice.

So obvious that it is silly not to comprehend it.
"God does not shout.." (1 Kings 19:11)

If He does both, what does the above mean?

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@josephw said
There's no contradiction if one realizes that God does both shout and speaks in a still small voice.

So obvious that it is silly not to comprehend it.
There is nothing silly about God's contradictions, but they are silly only when man does not know why they are contradictions. Obviously they are not ordinary contradictions, but they are ordinarily intentional. Anything in the Word which seems contradictory, or strange, or silly and which defies logic, is there to challenge the reasonable mind to be Godlike.

God hardly speaks with a small voice, unless he speaks through man, literally and figuratively.

God thunders wondrously with his voice; he does great things that we cannot comprehend.

“At this my heart also pounds and leaps from its place. Listen closely to the thunder of His voice and the rumbling that comes from His mouth. He unleashes His lightning beneath the whole sky and sends it to the ends of the earth."

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
"God does not shout.." (1 Kings 19:11)

If He does both, what does the above mean?
It means, I'm frightened to say, is I can't find anywhere in the Bible the phrase, "God does not shout."

Was the deception intended? Are you making a joke? Or did you not know it?

There are references that do indeed say God shouts, and his voice is thunderous.
Look them up.

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@pettytalk said
There is nothing silly about God's contradictions, but they are silly only when man does not know why they are contradictions. Obviously they are not ordinary contradictions, but they are ordinarily intentional. Anything in the Word which seems contradictory, or strange, or silly and which defies logic, is there to challenge the reasonable mind to be Godlike.

God hardly ...[text shortened]... His mouth. He unleashes His lightning beneath the whole sky and sends it to the ends of the earth."
I agree.
My reply was to the Ghost addressing the content of his post.

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@pettytalk said
There is nothing silly about God's contradictions, but they are silly only when man does not know why they are contradictions. Obviously they are not ordinary contradictions, but they are ordinarily intentional. Anything in the Word which seems contradictory, or strange, or silly and which defies logic, is there to challenge the reasonable mind to be Godlike.

God hardly ...[text shortened]... His mouth. He unleashes His lightning beneath the whole sky and sends it to the ends of the earth."
'Man' does know why they are contradictions; they are contradictions because they are contradictions, they do not merely 'seem' to be contradictions. If you are saying that a 'Godlike' mind ceases to be logical or reasonable, then we have agreement on this point.

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@josephw said
From my perspective, I think the author will demonstrate that God created man with the inherent capability and capacity, built in to his being and substance, to know, hear, speak with, walk with, and enjoy God as no other created beings.
She doesn't demonstrate it. She just asserts it.

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@josephw said
From my perspective, I think the author will demonstrate that God created man with the inherent capability and capacity, built in to his being and substance, to know, hear, speak with, walk with, and enjoy God as no other created beings.
I shall say that again for good measure. She doesn't demonstrate it. She just asserts it. There.

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@indonesia-phil said
'Man' does know why they are contradictions; they are contradictions because they are contradictions, they do not merely 'seem' to be contradictions. If you are saying that a 'Godlike' mind ceases to be logical or reasonable, then we have agreement on this point.
There are only apparent contradictions.

They are not "contradictions because they are contradictions." There's no logic in a contradiction.

Contradiction implies a flaw. Logic, flawlessness, or else the entire content isn't what it claims to be.

The question is; does God shout, or whisper? Clearly God does both. Therefore, the question of whether or not a contradiction exists is made moot.

Probably no one will agree.

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