01 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidI disagree with your personal opinions on certain things.
The Bible only contains the Word of God, which is quite different than it is the Word
of God. So you pick and choose, which is what I have been telling you! My personal
opinion isn't a priority, what the scriptures clearly say is.
What you’ve just posted is another one of your personal opinions which I disagree with.
01 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidFirstly I don’t believe in a literal hell, as you well know. Pretending you don’t know or don’t remember is dishonest Kellyjay.
So Jesus is God and in
charge of Hell, you admit that?
Secondly I started a thread a while about entitled the biggest misconception in Christendom, in which you failed against my premise that (in mainstream doctrinal through and general accepted understanding) it was Jesus who was in charge of hell, not Satan.
And yet here you are now contradicting your previous stance.
@divegeester saidIt's been his new gimmick in 2022. It's dj2becker-ism.
Firstly I don’t believe in a literal hell, as you well know. Pretending you don’t know or don’t remember is dishonest Kellyjay.
@divegeester saidWhen the scriptures plainly says something who repeats it to agree or disagree is meaningless, the Word not our opinions matter, and what you are doing is using me to justify your denial of what the Bible says. Not wise since we all will stand before God and give an account, and “Kelly said,” will not be a defendable position to take!
No, primarily disagree with your interpretation of it. That’s what we’ve been discussing over dozens of threads for that couple of years. Your opinions.
@divegeester saidYea I know casting out what the Bible teaches is common for you.
Firstly I don’t believe in a literal hell, as you well know. Pretending you don’t know or don’t remember is dishonest Kellyjay.
Secondly I started a thread a while about entitled the biggest misconception in Christendom, in which you failed against my premise that (in mainstream doctrinal through and general accepted understanding) it was Jesus who was in charge of hell, not Satan.
And yet here you are now contradicting your previous stance.
01 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidWhether or not scripture “plainly says something” or not, is a matter of personal opinion kellyjay.
When the scriptures plainly says something who repeats it to agree or disagree is meaningless, the Word not our opinions matter, and what you are doing is using me to justify your denial of what the Bible says. Not wise since we all will stand before God and give an account, and “Kelly said,” will not be a defendable position to take!
01 Dec 22
@divegeester saidIn your world 🌎, in mine when we write something we are saying what we mean. You are suggesting that when God’s word says something about any topic we get to translate it any way we want?
Whether or not scripture “plainly says something” or not, is a matter of personal opinion kellyjay.
So the 10 commandments are up in the air according to what ever people feel like they mean? I think you have highlighted the source of your reasoning issues, you seem to think 🤔 what ever spin you wish to use that is all that matters, not the intent of the author!
What a screwed up philosophy of conversation and communication you have! If you really believed that, why do you correct people when they assert things you disagree with, or think they are being deceitful?
01 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidWhen you say “spin” you are referring to my personal opinion I presume?
In your world 🌎, in mine when we write something we are saying what we mean. You are suggesting that when God’s word says something about any topic we get to translate it any way we want?
So the 10 commandments are up in the air according to what ever people feel like they mean? I think you have highlighted the source of your reasoning issues, you seem to think 🤔 what ev ...[text shortened]... do you correct people when they assert things you disagree with, or think they are being deceitful?
But when you say “truth” you are referring to your personal opinion?
@divegeester saidWhen you talk about personal opinions you are not talking about truth only opinions, truth is unbending reality that doesn’t change with the whims of man.
When you say “spin” you are referring to my personal opinion I presume?
But when you say “truth” you are referring to your personal opinion?
God’s truth is not subject to change due to man’s opinion, (mine included) if we get that wrong no matter how sure we are about our position we will be in error! When you take it upon yourself to reject the text as it is written that is what you are doing, putting yourself above the Word.
01 Dec 22
@kellyjay saidBut other than your own personal opinion you have absolutely not evidence whatsoever that the “text” is the literal, complete, inerrant word of God.
When you talk about personal opinions you are not talking about truth only opinions, truth is unbending reality that doesn’t change with the whims of man.
God’s truth is not subject to change due to man’s opinion, (mine included) if we get that wrong no matter how sure we are about our position we will be in error! When you take it upon yourself to reject the text as it is written that is what you are doing, putting yourself above the Word.
So we are just left with your personal opinion and your snarky “you are aligned with the Antichrist” 1950s American evangelical pious superiority.
01 Dec 22
@divegeester saidThat is racist.
I thought you would have realised by now that I’m not interested in the slightest in your pontifications about how “evil” we all are, how you feel you “walk your faith” or how you feel that you “have Jesus within” you because you think certain things about yourself.
To me you are a typical American fundamentalist right-wing Christian zealot who holds extremist views on ...[text shortened]... your version of Jesus upon whoever fails to align with personal opinion about ancient Hebrew texts.