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@indonesia-phil said
There is no evidence that confirms that your 'scriptures' are the word of any god; if there was you wouldn't need faith, which is all you have, and faith comes from within you, and from nowhere else.
That isn't true, but if your mind is made up, you will refuse to acknowledge the
evidence about scripture or the universe and life itself you will be blind to it by
suppressing the truth.

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@kellyjay said
I know you have answered this, and your answer is you don't believe, if you did you
would have said yes, its simple dive, you are not a man of faith, except in the no one
knows doctrine.
I don’t believe what, exactly?

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@kellyjay said
Just as you don't accept the scriptures as the Word of God you also don't accept
evidence that confirms this, you simply wallow in the I don't know doctrine and no
one can prove anything to you because you won't accept it. I have given you the
things that I accept, you blew them off just as you do the scriptures being the Word
of God.
So you have no evidence whatsoever, nothing?

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@kellyjay said
That isn't true, but if your mind is made up, you will refuse to acknowledge the
evidence about scripture or the universe and life itself you will be blind to it by
suppressing the truth.
For what must be the 30th time of asking… other than your deeply held personal belief, what evidence do you have that the bible is the complete, exclusive, inerrant, literal word of God”?

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@kellyjay said
its simple dive, you are not a man of faith
Oh I see, more “Christian” snide in addition to heretic, atheistic, aligned with Antichrist and a tare!

Firstly kellyjay, faith is given.

Secondly my faith is based firmly in Christ himself, not in a book. His law is written on my heart as it is said it would be.

Thirdly, placing one’s faith in rigid doctrinal interpretations of ancient text, including the bible is idolatry, or at least borderline idolatry. It’s a book!

Edit; I acknowledge that this is going to be a bit radical for these fundies.

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@divegeester said
I don’t believe what, exactly?
You have said what you believed, why are you asking me?

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@kellyjay said
You have said what you believed, why are you asking me?
You said I “don’t believe it.”

Don’t you know what you’re typing!

What is it I don’t believe ?

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@divegeester said
You said I “don’t believe it.”

Don’t you know what you’re typing!

What is it I don’t believe ?
I asked you a number of times now and got the same answer from you, you do not
know if the Bible is from God or man. You have qualified it as some of it is, but that
casts doubt on the whole. Not sure why you are still going on and on about this, it
is how you view it, as you have explained several times now, I'm agreeing with you
that is what you do.

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@kellyjay said
I asked you a number of times now and got the same answer from you, you do not
know if the Bible is from God or man. You have qualified it as some of it is, but that
casts doubt on the whole. Not sure why you are still going on and on about this, it
is how you view it, as you have explained several times now, I'm agreeing with you
that is what you do.
What is it I don’t believe, be specific and stop being cowardly kellyjay.

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@divegeester said
What is it I don’t believe, be specific and stop being cowardly kellyjay.
I'm tired of trying to explain myself to you, I'm not going to explain your own words
to you, go back and read the discussion, and get a clue.

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@kellyjay said
I know you have answered this, and your answer is you don't believe
Here’s what you said kellyjay…

I’ve not said I “don’t believe” anything at all. I’ve not used those words, not once.

So what is it you are claiming I don’t believe? Be specific.

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Free will under threat of punishment by a psychotic but "loving" God is not free will, nor is there any real love in that relationship.

Case closed.

Let's pack up all this Abrahamic crap and toss it on the bonfire of history.

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@divegeester said
Here’s what you said kellyjay…

I’ve not said I “don’t believe” anything at all. I’ve not used those words, not once.

So what is it you are claiming I don’t believe? Be specific.
Why don't you yourself lay out what you do believe and don't believe, instead of setting that impossible task for someone else?

Too much of a coward?

What's your creed?

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@divegeester said
Oh I see, more “Christian” snide in addition to heretic, atheistic, aligned with Antichrist and a tare!

Firstly kellyjay, faith is given.

Secondly my faith is based firmly in Christ himself, not in a book. His law is written on my heart as it is said it would be.

Thirdly, placing one’s faith in rigid doctrinal interpretations of ancient text, including the bib ...[text shortened]... latry. It’s a book!

Edit; I acknowledge that this is going to be a bit radical for these fundies.
I don't know who is worse: a believer who lies about Christ, or a nonbeliever who lies about Christ.

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@kevin-eleven said
Why don't you yourself lay out what you do believe and don't believe, instead of setting that impossible task for someone else?

Too much of a coward?

What's your creed?
All he ever does is no matter what is said to him, he finds something to point
out, and then complain as if nothing of importance was brought to his attention.

He tries to tries to play both sides of the fence without sticking with some
foundational position that he must defend so he waffles on everything.

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