21 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidWhen you married your previous wife you were in love with her.
I gave you my questions and concerns about your analogy. I told you I went through one too, so I was not applying an analogy to yours; I shared my life when I said that. If you wonder why I said what I did, I suggest reading what I wrote.
Now some time after you have been divorced you are no longer in love with her.
It’s not a difficult analogy to grasp KellyJay.
21 Apr 22
@fmf saidIt is your world when you set up all the rules, create and define all the definitions for everything; you apply your filters to everything said and done. Nothing about this can be anything else, it is you being sovereign overall there is around you, everything is as you say it is. Even when people say things you disagree with, you turn whatever is said into something not worth hearing or listening to.
It is not "my world", KellyJay, it's THE world in which we both live. People get divorced after being married for a long time. It happens. You can't pretend it doesn't.
Someone else has to be sovereign overall for it not to be your own making, and you deny that.
21 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidI don't want to know about your personal life.
I gave you my questions and concerns about your analogy. I told you I went through one too, so I was not applying an analogy to yours; I shared my life when I said that. If you wonder why I said what I did, I suggest reading what I wrote.
21 Apr 22
@divegeester saidIf you want to talk about my divorce and real life, we are about to leave analogy and start down this path; if we do, your life will become part of that discussion. Do you want to do that?
When you married your previous wife you were in love with her.
Now some time after you have been divorced you are no longer in love with her.
It’s not a difficult analogy to grasp KellyJay.
21 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidAll this sheer nonsense just to squirm away from an adult allegory about loss of faith that makes the allegory you offered sound like it was written by a child!
It is your world when you set up all the rules, create and define all the definitions for everything; you apply your filters to everything said and done. Nothing about this can be anything else, it is you being sovereign overall there is around you, everything is as you say it is. Even when people say things you disagree with, you turn whatever is said into something not worth hearing or listening to.
21 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidI think you’re posting all this convoluted stuff to hide from addressing the analogy head on.
It is your world when you set up all the rules, create and define all the definitions for everything; you apply your filters to everything said and done. Nothing about this can be anything else, it is you being sovereign overall there is around you, everything is as you say it is. Even when people say things you disagree with, you turn whatever is said into something not wor ...[text shortened]... to.
Someone else has to be sovereign overall for it not to be your own making, and you deny that.
Let’s be direct see if that helps.
What is your view of FMF’s loss of faith then:
- was never saved in the first place?
- was saved but has lost his salvation?
- was saved and is still saved?
21 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidHere is your allegory for my statements about my faith in the past having lost that faith:
I don't have the answers; it is your world; I cannot tell you what you think; I don't have your mental abilities; it is your analogy, not mine.
If you and I were friends who lived next to one another 20 years ago, and today I deny I ever knew you 20 years ago, as a true statement! Would I be telling the truth?