Does God Exist?

Originally posted by finnegan
Why do you assume the secular human does not believe in God?

a. Worldly rather than spiritual: the secular affairs of the parish.
b. Not relating to religion or to a religious body; nonreligious: secular music.
c. Not bound by the full monastic rule of a religious order. Used of clergy.
2. Relating to or advocating secularism.
3.
a. Occurring ...[text shortened]... a that change slowly over time.
n.
1. A member of the secular clergy.
2. A layperson.

I did not assume that. The question is the name of the linked video. 😏

Originally posted by sonhouse
Kind of like Christianity.

Hahaha... that's a good one.

Not true, but still, I got a giggle out of it.

Originally posted by finnegan
Why do you assume the secular human does not believe in God?

I would hazard a guess and just say probably usage, as well as assumption.

Most people use 'secular' as an antonym of 'religious'. But yes, I've known many people who, while they do believe in God, could not be properly called 'religious'.

Originally posted by Suzianne
I would hazard a guess and just say probably usage, as well as assumption.

Most people use 'secular' as an antonym of 'religious'. But yes, I've known many people who, while they do believe in God, could not be properly called 'religious'.

So would secular clergy not be properly called religious then? Must a lay person not be properly called religious (and hence only the clergy are)? What a knot this is!

Originally posted by finnegan
So would secular clergy not be properly called religious then? Must a lay person not be properly called religious (and hence only the clergy are)? What a knot this is!

You are making up things as you go.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are making up things as you go.

Not so.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/secular

Originally posted by finnegan
Not so.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/secular

clergy

n.
The body of people ordained or recognized by a religious community as ritual or spiritual leaders.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/clergy

secular

adj.
1.
a. Worldly rather than spiritual: the secular affairs of the parish.

b. Not relating to religion or to a religious body; nonreligious: secular music.

c. Not bound by the full monastic rule of a religious order. Used of clergy.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/secular

Okay, someone else made it up. Secular clergy is an oxymoron. However, it could refer to those involved in the secular affairs of the parish or church like a secretary.

secular humanism

n.
1. An outlook or philosophy that advocates human rather than religious values.

2. Secularism.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Secular+humanists

humanism

A view originating in the Renaissance that reason must be autonomous from authorities such as the Church.

Originally posted by finnegan
So would secular clergy not be properly called religious then? Must a lay person not be properly called religious (and hence only the clergy are)? What a knot this is!

I think English is flexible enough to write and speak as you wish to describe things or people accurately. In some cases, you may have to explain yourself, but I suppose that's the risk you take when using words together that aren't normally (or even usually) used together.

Originally posted by Suzianne
I think English is flexible enough to write and speak as you wish to describe things or people accurately. In some cases, you may have to explain yourself, but I suppose that's the risk you take when using words together that aren't normally (or even usually) used together.

Nobody has actually answered his question I see.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Nobody has actually answered his question I see.

The answer is obviously yes? So why must anyone answer it, since even an idiot knows it a rhetorical question. So you must be a numbnuts. 😏