Originally posted by telerionthen what is the complaint? All false gods are a trick from satan. Have really read the words of JESUS. Are you being critical of Him oe me. If you are being critical of the Words of CHRIST, why? Has he said or done something that was unbelieveable? Or are you being critical of me, for my incistance of stating what THE WORD OF GOD, clearly says. Are you unsure of what you believe? Sure I have spoken about some of the false Religions of this world. I have even noted or questioned the differrences. Sure I am outwardly spoken when it comes to speaking about the MOST HIGH GOD. I am supposed to be. Just as those that believe in those false gods should speak of their beliefs. The GOD of the Christian gets attacked for what HE has done and what HE says HE will do. HE gets attacked because HE does not hide, HE is very visible. There are no dark secrets in HIM. While those so called false gods hid in the shadows. THE MOST HIGH GOD can withstand the attacks whether they are from believers of theose false gods or just the unbelievers on one, or as a whole. Yes the world has been decieved by satan. Yes those that have believed the Lies of satan, will pay a price, and what a price. All those that have refused to believe in THE MOST HIGH GOD, refuse to accept The Forgiveness that HE offers through JESUS CHRIST, are going to a place worse than hell forever. That is the truth of the matter.
When I complain about God, it is similiar to when you complain about Allah or any other "false idols." You don't believe in them. In fact, I suspect that you believe that these false gods are lies made up by Satan to deceive the world. You can still take issue with the religions without believing that the idols upon which they rest are true.
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Oh yes, and I discuss him because you brought it up. You are preaching, and I critiquing.
Originally posted by blindfaith101What are you talking about. Read your OWN words my man - I haven't read 'The good book' - but I bet neither us have read the Quran either - yet your quite happy to say that your book is the right one.
then what is the complaint? All false gods are a trick from satan. Have really read the words of JESUS. Are you being critical of Him oe me. If you are being critical of the Words of CHRIST, why? Has he said or done something that was unbelieveable? Or are you being critical of me, for my incistance of stating what THE WORD OF GOD, clearly says. Are yo ...[text shortened]... ugh JESUS CHRIST, are going to a place worse than hell forever. That is the truth of the matter.
Get a grip, it's a book - there weren’t any tape recorder around in the Time of Jesus so I don’t believe one word that is in ANY book - if 1 word has been misquoted in the book then you are not quoting Jesus - your quoting some guy....and I for one belive the bible was written by many, many hands.
Originally posted by sasquatch672There is no difficulty speaking about CHRIST, never has. Others have tried to encourage others gentlely with the Message of CHRIST. And it has not been well recieved. They have spoken in the way that some of you say you like. They have been made fun of and rejected. Sure we are to keep trying to reach the world. We are to speak in the way tha GOD has given us. We are to speak the message that GOD has given us to speak. And we all do. GOD has given and allowed me to speak as I do. Straight and to the Point (PERIOD). Is it well recieved, No. Does it upset some, Yes, it is supposed to. Does it make some to think, yes. Does it cause others not to, yes. Does it cause some to take a more firmer stand, yes. But, they have been given the Truth.They are told about the Love of GOD, and The Saving Power of JESUS CHRIST. Do they try to rattle the messenger, yes, they are supposed to.Do they try to distort the Message, yes, they are supposed to. Have they ever succeeded, or will they ever succeed, NO. THE WORD OF GOD, and the Salvation offered by JESUS CHRIST is going World wide. By any means nessasary, it can not be stopped.
See? People can't even talk to you. I tried. I said some very nice things and I prayed for you. Honestly, I did. Because you need it.
How difficult it must be to be you. How truly difficult.
By the way - does God give you extra credit for typing his name in all caps?
If you are not a Believer, I need not your prayers. GOD will NOT hear or answer the prayers of unbelievers, or the unrighteous. It is not difficult to Stand on the WORD OF GOD. It is not difficult to Believe and follow HIM. It is not difficult to say to anyone, that if you donot accept JESUS CHRIST, as your Savior you are going to hell. What is difficult is to NOT do what GOD has given you to do. That is Difficult.
Originally posted by FelixMcI will dicuss the Quran with any Believer of Islam. That offer has been given before. Are they ashamed of their god. Their god is false. Now that should be an interresting thread. THE WORD OF GOD compared to the QURAN. The believers of the Quran are here. That's part of the reason, why we got separrated from the other Forums, were they offended.
What are you talking about. Read your OWN words my man - I haven't read 'The good book' - but I bet neither us have read the Quran either - yet your quite happy to say that your book is the right one.
Get a grip, it's a book - there weren’t any tape recorder around in the Time of Jesus so I don’t believe one word that is in ANY book - if 1 word has b ...[text shortened]... sus - your quoting some guy....and I for one belive the bible was written by many, many hands.
Originally posted by orfeoI've asked him about this before. He capitalizes the words he believes deserve reverence.
blindfaith, I'm desperate to ask: why do you capitalise words? I've never seen entire words capitalised in the Bible except "LORD" and that's for a very specific reason.
Do you know the reason why "LORD" is capitalised, by the way?
You've really got to be kidding me. I'm not sure for whose benefit my response will be. It seems that getting you to give this topic any careful consideration is hopeless. I'm not getting much from what you're saying so it isn't really for me for me either. Often these discussions are for those that are reading. They may appreciate some sincere debate of an issue for their own contemplation. At this point however, I can't imagine any third party is getting anything out of your posts because despite quoting me at the top you really don't address any of my post. So unless you put out some effort and stop holding a one person conversation, this will be my final post of our discussion.
then what is the complaint? All false gods are a trick from satan. Have really read the words of JESUS. Are you being critical of Him oe me. If you are being critical of the Words of CHRIST, why?
And so begins the game of 100 questions 🙂 . I "complain" because like any philosophy, xtianity is fair game for criticism. In the modest time I have spent studying the scripture and observing/experiencing the culture of the American protestant church, I have discovered many problems with the philosophy both in theory and in practice. That in itself is sufficient for "complaint." Moreover, however, the influence of this philosophy on our current broader American culture and government cannot be overstated. For this reason, discussion of the shortcomings of this version of xtianity is of great interest to me.
It appears that I was right about your view of other gods. Yes, I have read the words of Jesus many times. I have also read the entire 66 book version of the Bible several times. I don't know, however, if you will accept this as having 'really read' it.
I am critical of the xtian conception of god in general (i.e. I think its a ludicrous anthropomorphism). I may or may not be critical of the words of Jesus depending on which words you choose. The only criticisms I have of you have already been written in this thread and so I will not spend time repeating them.
Has he said or done something that was unbelieveable? Or are you being critical of me, for my incistance of stating what THE WORD OF GOD, clearly says. Are you unsure of what you believe?
There are plenty of unbelievable things that the character, Jesus, says and does in the Bible. The same goes for Ulysses in the Oddysey, Aeneas in the Aeneid, or Hercules in various Greek plays. That's what fictional characters in epics and mythologies do. If you tell me these things actually happened, then I'm going to have some "complaints" (or better worded 'criticisms'😉.
I don't care if you repeat what the Word of God says. What concerns me, as others have pointed out here, is that you don't seem to understand what it is that you regurgitate.
How you can read my posts and then ask if I am unsure of what I believe baffles me. I assume you are trying to bait me or something.
Sure I have spoken about some of the false Religions of this world. I have even noted or questioned the differrences. Sure I am outwardly spoken when it comes to speaking about the MOST HIGH GOD. I am supposed to be. Just as those that believe in those false gods should speak of their beliefs.
Uhm . . . again I don't have a problem with your outspokeness. I have a problem with your lack of critical thought. You have given no good reason to think that these "false Religions" are products of Satan. Maybe Thor really is the most high god, and Loki is deceiving you with xtianity. You speak with certainty that it is not true, but you really haven't offered solid reason to be uncertain of this.
Yes, everyone should speak about there beliefs here. I will speak about mine. I believe your god is make believe. I used to play make believe with that god as well. Now I don't play make believe with any gods. Just my position.
The GOD of the Christian gets attacked for what HE has done and what HE says HE will do. HE gets attacked because HE does not hide, HE is very visible. There are no dark secrets in HIM. While those so called false gods hid in the shadows. THE MOST HIGH GOD can withstand the attacks whether they are from believers of theose false gods or just the unbelievers on one, or as a whole.
Well, "criticized" is better than "attacked." I don't know about your bit about him not hiding. If he hid less, belief in his existence would be nearly universal. For example, if he were as demonstrable as the sun, then we could all point to him and say, "See? There he is. Now will you worship him or not?" I think part of what makes your particular god so nasty is that he chooses not to reveal himself this clearly and then exercises unspeakable torture upon those that don't find him.
The rest of what you say here sounds like something out of a comic book. Captain America can battle Freezo Man, the M-team, and take out Dr. Spot at the same time. I don't think there's anything of substance here.
Yes the world has been decieved by satan. Yes those that have believed the Lies of satan, will pay a price, and what a price. All those that have refused to believe in THE MOST HIGH GOD, refuse to accept The Forgiveness that HE offers through JESUS CHRIST, are going to a place worse than hell forever. That is the truth of the matter.
Curiously, why don't you capitalize Satan? It is a proper noun you know. Anyway, back to the point. Your god is said to be the all-knowing first cause of everything that exists. He then was the all-knowing first cause of Satan. He deliberately created a being he knew would be responsible for confusing/deceiving humans. He created everything such that this would happen and also created a place of eternal torment to punish those who did exactly what he designed them to do.
That is what is so "over the top" about hell.
You mention "a place worse then hell." Where/what is that exactly? Is it possible that you've thought up a worse torture than your god?
Originally posted by blindfaith101If you want to argue about the Koran with someone, why don't you go to an Islamic website with a forum and go for it? In the light of recent political developments, I can see where a Muslim might be slightly reluctant to get on an US-GB website and discuss Islamic principles the way you spout selected parts of the Bible. You do occasionally read a newspaper, don't you?
I will dicuss the Quran with any Believer of Islam. That offer has been given before. Are they ashamed of their god. Their god is false. Now that should be an interresting thread. THE WORD OF GOD compared to the QURAN. The believers of the Quran are here. That's part of the reason, why we got separrated from the other Forums, were they offended.
iOriginally posted by no1marauderI never bought the Koran or Islam into the picture. I only answered the question that was posed. Each and everyone has formed the opinions about GOD. Whatever truth that each one believes is one's choice. I chose to believe in the GOD of THE BIBLE,that is my choice. I need not go onto a Islamic website or forum to discuss the matter. It is being discussed throughout the world.If members of the Islamic Religion wish to speak they shall if they want. But in most cases they donot care whether you accept their Religion or not. They believe the way they believe and thats what they believe. Christians here or anywhere else are not trying to convert you or anyone else. We are only speaking The Truth as we believe. The funny part about all this is, Someone asks a question. When it is answered, there are those who donot like the way it was answered. The way the answer was given. Or who gave the answer. Also the funny part is the more you kick at the Truth, the stronger it becomes.
If you want to argue about the Koran with someone, why don't you go to an Islamic website with a forum and go for it? In the light of recent political developments, I can see where a Muslim might be slightly reluctant to get on an US-GB website and discuss Islamic principles the way you spout selected parts of the Bible. You do occasionally read a newspaper, don't you?
Originally posted by orfeoI capitalize certain words that pertain to GOD and JESUS CHRIST, as part of my worship, of THE MOST HIGH GOD. Does it bother me that it bothers those, how I worship the GOD that I serve, not in the least.
In which case he completely misunderstands the purpose behind capitalising first letters, let alone entire words.
Originally posted by eagles54Anything or anyone that is worshiped other than, THE MOST HIGH GOD,(HE is known by many names) JESUS CHRIST, and THE HOLY SPIRIT(or HOLY GHOST), is a false god.
Blindfaith, can you tell me who these so-called false gods are?
Thank you.
eagles