Spirituality
09 Apr 22
09 Apr 22
@divegeester saidDid you read the 2nd comment in this thread I responded to?
Was your comment about people not being questioned just rhetorical then or did you have a specific in mind?
"Dogma is defined as principles or rules that cannot be questioned".
I'm simply reading and responding to what is said, and those things that come to mind as the conversation occurs, isn't that what we all do? The word dogma, I think, gets a bad rap; if something is true, it needs to be involved in all of our pondering and musing about everything else; you need a known good before you can tell if something is wrong. If something has given us pause, usually, it's how we believe reality in our worldviews that are comprised of several things we hold to be true.
09 Apr 22
@divegeester saidI was interested in the word, its meaning and use, and what others thought was purely rhetorical. Sometimes those types of questions generate interesting discussions.
@KellyJay
So I’ll ask again
Was your comment about people not being questioned, just a rhetorical point or did you have a specific in mind?
09 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidNo KellyJay, don’t try and dodge, what you said was:
I was interested in the word, its meaning and use, and what others thought was purely rhetorical. Sometimes those types of questions generate interesting discussions.
“If we cannot be questioned on any topic…”
So my unanswered question to you is:
Was this comment about people not being questioned, just a rhetorical point or did you have a specific in mind?
09 Apr 22
@vivify saidI think dogma, as a technical word, is not always loaded-up with a negative meaning, e.g. "...the Church's dogma is laid out in its catechism which must be studied and memorized in order to receive the sacrament of confirmation."
"Dogma is defined as principles or rules that cannot be questioned".
This makes dogma an inherently bad thing.
But when someone is regurgitating rote-learned, internalized ideology without being able to explain it well, then to call those beliefs "dogma" carries a negative connotation.
09 Apr 22
@divegeester saidDid you read what I wrote?
No KellyJay, don’t try and dodge, what you said was:
“If we cannot be questioned on any topic…”
So my unanswered question to you is:
Was this comment about people not being questioned, just a rhetorical point or did you have a specific in mind?
09 Apr 22
@fmf saidMuch like political speech, "common-sense gun control" might make those saying and hearing the word think they all mean the same thing, but depending on who is saying it and who is hearing it, it can be quite different.
I think dogma, as a technical word, is not always loaded-up with a negative meaning, e.g. "...the Church's dogma is laid out in its catechism which must be studied and memorized in order to receive the sacrament of confirmation."
But when someone is regurgitating rote-learned, internalized ideology without being able to explain it well, then to call those beliefs "dogma" carries a negative connotation.
@kellyjay saidMeanwhile...
Much like political speech, "common-sense gun control" might make those saying and hearing the word think they all mean the same thing, but depending on who is saying it and who is hearing it, it can be quite different.
[1] The Pope is a Catholic, and
[2] Bears poo in the woods.
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