11 Jul 22
@moonbus saidThis was a slightly pretentious thing to say on a debate and discussion forum, I'd say. And I think you know it, too. It would explain your subsequent abrupt shift to talking, instead, about how you are too sophisticated for this debate and discussion forum. I have fallen into this kind of little pothole myself a few times.
Consider the lilies of the field; they do not seek answers, neither do they suffer distractions.
11 Jul 22
@moonbus saidI've always considered this to be an exhortation that forms part of the scriptural evidence that the fostering and shaping of the pacifist breakaway religion centred around Jesus may well have been, in part, a Roman operation in service of their need to quell the feisty Jews.
Jesus admonished his disciples to stop troubling themselves when their next meal would come but to simply trust that all that is needful will be provided.
@fmf saidThere is some research into the matter of what sort of messiah or savior the Jews were expecting, and at least one author claims it was to have been a political liberator who would free Palestine from Roman occupation. If one reads the charge against Jesus as “sedition” this makes perfect sense. The Romans would not have cared if a Jew had “blasphemed” a god they, the Romans, did not worship.
I've always considered this to be an exhortation that forms part of the scriptural evidence that the fostering and shaping of the pacifist breakaway religion centred around Jesus may well have been, in part, a Roman operation in service of their need to quell the feisty Jews.
@fmf saidI did not mean to give the impression that I have achieved the blessed state myself. However, I have glimpsed it. I spent time in a Tibetan monastery under the tutelage of a genuine master, Akong Rinpoche. For sheer personal presence and authenticity, he knocks everyone else I ever met into a cocked hat, including a Russian Orthodox Patriarch with all his top-heavy regalia and theological arguments.
This was a slightly pretentious thing to say on a debate and discussion forum, I'd say. And I think you know it, too. It would explain your subsequent abrupt shift to talking, instead, about how you are too sophisticated for this debate and discussion forum. I have fallen into this kind of little pothole myself a few times.
@rookie54 saidIn the beginning was the Logos — the reason , the orderliness, the meaning; which is prior to all mere words.
in the beginning was the word
and the word was good
and all saw that the word was good and decided to define the word
and the word saw the definitions and went to the pub for a pint and darts
TU from me, rookie.
Just do it, stop talking about it.
@rookie54 saidOnly humans compound their pain and hunger with suffering and guilt and resentment and entitlement. So unnecessary.
out of context
out of mind
i close my eyes
and look what i find
I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself.
― D.H. Lawrence
@moonbus saidThere's a very interesting and scholarly book called "Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity" by James Valliant and Warren Fahy. PM me if you fancy listening to the MP3 version of it.
There is some research into the matter of what sort of messiah or savior the Jews were expecting, and at least one author claims it was to have been a political liberator who would free Palestine from Roman occupation. If one reads the charge against Jesus as “sedition” this makes perfect sense. The Romans would not have cared if a Jew had “blasphemed” a god they, the Romans, did not worship.
The whole Paulism thing can be seen in a different light.