01 Jan 17
Originally posted by KellyJayBut the 'evidence' is insufficient if one still needs 'faith'.
Proof or evidence, what is it you are asking for? You have to have something proved to
you before you believe it? If its proven why believe?
I've submitted to you why I think the universe is "evidence" and I've been asking for some
other view, theory, belief, or notion that could reasonably explain it. If a creator is as
reasonable as the next story than it should not be rejected out of hand, or is your bias
such you will reject regardless?
Faith is required because there is no proof. It's also why we have free will, which is why there is no proof.
01 Jan 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duketwhitehead is correct though.
It was Suzianne who dismissed the 'steady state theory' due to a lack of proof. Take it up with her.
Merely stating that the universe may not have a beginning is not enough to assume that one must be talking about the 'Steady State Theory'. It could be 'Big Bang' then billions of years later, 'Big Crunch', followed by the next 'Big Bang', ad infinitum. We can't 'know' for sure.
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01 Jan 17
Originally posted by SuzianneYeah, I know.
twhitehead is correct though.
Merely stating that the universe may not have a beginning is not enough to assume that one must be talking about the 'Steady State Theory'. It could be 'Big Bang' then billions of years later, 'Big Crunch', followed by the next 'Big Bang', ad infinitum. We can't 'know' for sure.
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01 Jan 17
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Originally posted by SuzianneI disagree faith is running with something you may have evidence for but you can't be certain about, even with science. Certainty and faith are different why if both mental states can be in error if the believing person is wrong about something.
But the 'evidence' is insufficient if one still needs 'faith'.
Faith is required because there is no proof. It's also why we have free will, which is why there is no proof.
I once was hiking in Alaska and stepped on some tundra and fell into a hole, it seemed that the tundra had grown over the hole, or a sinkhole occurred. I had faith the ground was solid I had walked it before I walk around all the time in faith every step will be supported by solid ground. Yet you never know when the ground will not support you, no matter how certain you are when going about your day.
01 Jan 17
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Originally posted by SuzianneSuch a hypocrite
As is this, from you.
Your caricature of me is false, but you know that. Building false narratives of people who disagree with you is 'what you do'.
Now go play in the road and leave me alone.
But I don't know if a female can even see it since she is used to having special privilege. Too bad that only works on guys you are putting out for or you are leasding on.
01 Jan 17
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkJudging an individual? Where did I judge an individual?
So when you judge someone you don't even know you are being honest? Sounds more like delusional.
Explaining the hate is not judging.
Explaining the self righteous hypocrisy is not judging.