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Faith equals lawlessness?

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Matthew 5
20“For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

John 8 
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin." 
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” 
"36So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. " 
" 35The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever. 
51Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.” 

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
Matthew 5
20“For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.


That's right.
So you better come to Jesus.

48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.


That's right. So you better come to Jesus and let Him make you perfect like the heavenly Father.

"36So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. " 
" 35The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever. 
51Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.” 


That's right. So you better come to the Son that He may make you free indeed.

Is your reaction to withdraw from the Son?
Is your reaction to withdraw even from God, and using Jews for Judaism for help in doing that?

for all these tough saying, the answer is to come to Jesus Christ and let Him be Lord and Savior of your whole life.

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Originally posted by @sonship
[b]Matthew 5
20“For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.


That's right.
So you better come to Jesus.

48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.


That's right. So you better come ...[text shortened]... saying, the answer is to come to Jesus Christ and let Him be Lord and Savior of your whole life.[/b]
As usual, you take verses out of context so that you can distort their meaning.

John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
" 35The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever.
51Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.”

The verses I cited from John 8 and Matthew 5 both point to the same thing: One must become righteous, i.e., no longer commit sin, in order to have eternal life / enter the kingdom.

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
As usual, you take verses out of context so that you can distort their meaning.

John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
" 35The slave does ...[text shortened]... become righteous, i.e., no longer commit sin, in order to have eternal life / enter the kingdom.
No, no, no ThinkOfOne.

For the kingdom of God - Come to Jesus.
To be perfected - Come to Jesus.
To be made free - Come to Jesus.
To be made free INDEED - Come to Jesus.
To cease from sin - Come to Jesus.
To sin no longer - Come to Jesus.
To remain in the house forever - Come to Jesus.

The Gospel is - Come to Jesus.
For hard sayings - Come to Jesus.
For easy sayings - Come to Jesus.
Any and all sayings! - Come to Jesus Christ.

Get the point.

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Originally posted by @sonship
No, no, no ThinkOfOne.

For the kingdom of God - Come to Jesus.
To be perfected - Come to Jesus.
To be made free - Come to Jesus.
To be made free INDEED - Come to Jesus.
To remain in the house forever - Come to Jesus.

The Gospel is - Come to Jesus.
For hard sayings - Come to Jesus.
For easy sayings - Come to Jesus.
Any and all sayings! - Come to Jesus Christ.

Get the point.
"...abide in My word..."
"...keep My word..."

I advocate for the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.

You advocate for a different gospel. You advocate for a gospel preached by others.

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
I advocate for the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.

You advocate for a different gospel. You advocate for a gospel preached by others.
Nay.

Come home to Jesus Christ ToO.
You'll truly find rest to your soul.

Just let Him subdue you.
Just let Him be Lord.
You will feel perfectly comfortable.
He IS the Lord. He is God.

If I could lose a hundred debates with you but lead you to Jesus Christ, I'd do it with no hesitation.

Seek the Lord while He can be found.
Call upon Him while He is near.

Today if you should hear His voice, do not harden your heart.
Just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Debunk me 1,000 times.
But come to Jesus who so loves you.

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Originally posted by @sonship
Nay.

Come home to Jesus Christ ToO.
You'll truly find rest to your soul.

Just let Him subdue you.
Just let Him be Lord.
You will feel perfectly comfortable.
He IS the Lord. He is God.

If I could lose a hundred debates with you but lead you to Jesus Christ, I'd do it with no hesitation.

Seek the Lord while He can be found.
Call upon Hi ...[text shortened]... render to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Debunk me 1,000 times.
But come to Jesus who so loves you.
"...abide in My word..."
"...keep My word..."

"..the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day..."
"...“I know that His commandment is eternal life..."

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
"...abide in My word..."
"...keep My word..."

"..the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day..."
"...“I know that His commandment is eternal life..."
All true.

So come to the Lord Jesus.
He's available.

"the last Adam became a life giving Spirit." ( 1 Cor. 15:45)

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
"...abide in My word..."
"...keep My word..."

"..the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day..."
"...“I know that His commandment is eternal life..."
Jesus said to believe on Him for eternal life and that He is from above and proceeded forth from the Father, that He was with the Father before the world began.

Why do you ignore His command to believe on Him? Why do you not believe what He said of Himself?

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Originally posted by @rajk999
Faith is nothing.

Love charity good works is what is required for eternal life in the kingdom of God.

Blessed are those who follow Christ and do his commandments...
If faith is nothing as you say it is do you mean to say it is nothing if you don't please God? (Since it is impossible to please God without faith?)

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