@ghost-of-a-duke saidBump for Dive.
The Bible uses human ways to speak about God, the technical term for which is anthropomorphism. Anthropomorphic language represents God’s unchanging attributes in the changing circumstances and different moral conditions of His creatures. Passages such as Genesis 6:6 need to be taken into consideration with Numbers 23:19. In doing so, we will understand that from our ...[text shortened]... ncies or flaws in His plan A.
https://answersingenesis.org/who-is-god/does-god-change-his-mind/
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThere you go, trying to make this personal again.
It isn't just 'another topic.'
It is a serious flaw in your Christian understanding and a marvelous example of you digging a hole deeper for yourself.
@divegeester saidThe Bible uses human ways to speak about God, the technical term for which is anthropomorphism. Anthropomorphic language represents God’s unchanging attributes in the changing circumstances and different moral conditions of His creatures. Passages such as Genesis 6:6 need to be taken into consideration with Numbers 23:19. In doing so, we will understand that from our human viewpoint God seems to change His mind about people, but He is only represented to us that way that we might relate to our omniscient God.
What does it say, it’s all chopped up.
God’s mind doesn’t change because it doesn’t need to change. He knows everything, and He knows the end from the beginning. God has no plan B because there are no deficiencies or flaws in His plan A.
https://answersingenesis.org/who-is-god/does-god-change-his-mind/
@ghost-of-a-duke saidSure I do but I’m not talking about me.
You never do that.
Why do you want to make this personal?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI already know what your opinion is, why are you telling me again.
The Bible uses human ways to speak about God, the technical term for which is anthropomorphism. Anthropomorphic language represents God’s unchanging attributes in the changing circumstances and different moral conditions of His creatures. Passages such as Genesis 6:6 need to be taken into consideration with Numbers 23:19. In doing so, we will understand that from our ...[text shortened]... ncies or flaws in His plan A.
https://answersingenesis.org/who-is-god/does-god-change-his-mind/
@divegeester saidWhy are you circumnavigated the pertinent questions?
Sure I do but I’m not talking about me.
Why do you want to make this personal?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidBecause you are trying to make the exchange personal.
Why are you circumnavigated the pertinent questions?
I thought I’d explained that, yes I’m certain I did. Let me check.
Edit yep I definitely did.
@divegeester saidHow is me questioning your understanding of altruism more personal than your comments:
Because you are trying to make the exchange personal.
I thought I’d explained that, yes I’m certain I did. Let me check.
"I am surprised that you seem unable to grasp the juxtaposition between predestination as a final designation in eternity, and free will as a construct of the temporal journey, as these aren’t advanced concepts."
@divegeester saidI think we are both fully aware that your claim altruism doesn't exist has landed you in an embarrassing and isolated mess.
What topic would you like to bring up now to highlight my “Achilles heel” and my lack of “Christian understanding”?
Morality
Justice
Punishment
@ghost-of-a-duke saidOk let’s get pedantic as it seems to be all you have left in your bag.
How is me questioning your understanding of altruism more personal than your comments:
"I am surprised that you seem unable to grasp the juxtaposition between predestination as a final designation in eternity, and free will as a construct of the temporal journey, as these aren’t advanced concepts."
You brought in “altruism” because you wanted to make this exchange personal thinking it would provide you some leverage to back up your silly little barbs about “Achilles heels” and “lack of Christian understanding” and so forth.
Altruism is off topic. I should have altered your post because, under the new regime, posting off topic is considered a contravention of the forum guidelines, as is “harassment” (I’ll nod to Suzianne on that one as it’s her favourite, she loves it).
Please try to stay on topic and not make this personal.
Service to others is a pillar of Christianity. Jesus taught that helping those in need was one of the most important aspects of life for just about anyone. Jesus went as far as to suggest that people should help others as much as possible. For example, Jesus praised those who would give so much to the poor that they themselves became poor. With such strong emphasis on helping till it hurts in the New Testament, one would expect to see Christians today putting altruism, or producing a positive change in the world, at the forefront of their lives.
Christians today have not been heeding the call of Christ to make a sincere, robust effort at helping people. We sacrifice little and help others based on the benefit to ourselves rather than to society. Only by practicing effective altruism, can we live up to Christ’s expectations.
https://ceasonline.org/the-state-of-altruism-in-christianity
@ghost-of-a-duke saidPlease try to stay on topic! Honestly, it’s all I can do to not laugh.
I think we are both fully aware that your claim altruism doesn't exist has landed you in an embarrassing and isolated mess.
Why not start another thread on it and you can be Ahab and I’ll be your altruism-whale there?