Former Aologiest for Gay Theology

Originally posted by FMF
What assertions have I made? Why don't you paste them verbatim here in your response to this?

You have asked a serious of question the implications of which are to call into question the reliability of conclusions drawn on the basis of evidence that at present cannot be produced with the sole intent of discrediting the personage who drew conclusions based on that alleged evidence. I have therefore changed my text to more accurately refer to your idirect insinuations rather than assertions.

Originally posted by divegeester
You were clearly misunderstanding the difference between a study and a Google search. The former is what you were asked for, the latter is what you provided. So yes, my question was in fact spot on.

and you are still unable to contribute a single iota of understanding to any of the actual issues that were raised by the content of the video. You must feel very satisfied.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
and you are still unable to contribute a single iota of understanding to any of the actual issues that were raised by the content of the video. You must feel very satisfied.

Robbie, are you suggesting that a poster cannot contribute to a thread unless they are directly commenting a specific topic being discussed within that thread?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You have asked a serious of question the implications of which are to call into question the reliability of conclusions drawn on the basis of evidence that at present cannot be produced with the sole intent of discrediting the personage who drew conclusions based on that alleged evidence. I have therefore changed my text to more accurately refer to your idirect insinuations rather than assertions.

I've already responded to your claim that I made "assertions" so I am not interested in what edits you made to what you'd said after you read my response. Copy paste the accusations or "assertions" you claim I have made or had claimed before you went back and doctored your post.

Originally posted by divegeester
Robbie, are you suggesting that a poster cannot contribute to a thread unless they are directly commenting a specific topic being discussed within that thread?

no i am telling yo that you have contributed nothing to our understanding of any of the issues that were raised in the video and instead seem intent of knit picking.

Originally posted by FMF
I've already responded to your claim that I made "assertions" so I am not interested in what edits you made to what you'd said after you read my response. Copy paste the accusations or "assertions" you claim I have made or had claimed before you went back and doctored your post.

I have told you what changes i have made. I have made reference to your insinuations rather than your assertions, please tell me what it is about that that you don't understand.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Well that is morally reprehensible as I have stated, but a separate issue from the claims that he made. He states his background is philosophy although he did wear a white lab coat like he was a biologist, he certainly gave the impression that he was a scientist of some description. He has a degree in christian counseling?

From his website - http://www.joedallas.com/about-us.cfm

Joe Dallas is an author, conference speaker, and ordained pastoral counselor. He’s the Program Director of Genesis Biblical Counseling in Tustin, California, which is a counseling ministry for men dealing with sexual addiction and other sexual/relational problems. He received his Master’s Degree in Christian Counseling from Vision University, San Diego, CA and is a member of the American Association of Christian Counselors. He is also the author of the daily blog Joe Dallas Online.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have told you what changes i have made. I have made reference to your insinuations rather than your assertions, please tell me what it is about that that you don't understand.

Copy paste whatever you think you have here in a response to this post.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Look do you have anything interesting to say or add to the subject?

If you don't want to discuss biological and environmental factors, and you don't want to discuss homosexual orientation, and you don't want to discuss the studies that you have cited, and you don't want to discuss the video maker Joe Dallas' credibility in the field of the causes of homosexual orientation, then what is it you do want to discuss?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
compelling viewing, 26 studies, up to 46 percent of the persons in adoption by gay couples engaged in homosexual behavior, a huge environmental factor.

Which of the 26 studies made this claim you mentioned about 46% of persons adopted by gay couples?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no....

Good, thanks.

Originally posted by FMF
Copy paste whatever you think you have here in a response to this post.

you have insinuated by the repeated use of same questions that you think that either the studies themselves do not exist or have been fabricated or distorted in some way, how else are we to understand you incessant questioning in this regard. So why don't we simply ask you outright,

Do you think that the 26 studies that are mentioned in the video exist, have been fabricated or distorted?

Originally posted by divegeester
Good, thanks.

maybe someday well shall learn something from you Jeester, we live in hope.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
From his website - http://www.joedallas.com/about-us.cfm

Joe Dallas is an author, conference speaker, and ordained pastoral counselor. He’s the Program Director of Genesis Biblical Counseling in Tustin, California, which is a counseling ministry for men dealing with sexual addiction and other sexual/relational problems. He received his Master’s ...[text shortened]... tion of Christian Counselors. He is also the author of the daily blog Joe Dallas Online.

A Master's degree in christian counselling??? I wonder if those Galilean fishermen had a master's degree in christian counselling, I suspect not.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Do you think that the 26 studies that are mentioned in the video exist, have been fabricated or distorted?

Who can say? He's a strange kind of "scientist" if he is keeping them secret or he does not feel obligated to reveal what they are. Perhaps he's just a polemicist drumming up business, I don't know. What do you think? There is certainly close to zero academic or scientific integrity shown with this video and the studies it is supposedly based on. Then again, as you have pointed out, Joe Dallas is "morally reprehensible".