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Originally posted by stillropey


The relevence of the Catholic Church's problems in relation to child molestation is...what?
The fascinating juxtaposition of known child molesters being deemed fit to give communion and women on birth control being deemed such grave sinners that they are unfit to receive it.

Where on this spectrum does being gay lie? Closer to the molesting priests or to the doomed women? And is shunning from Christmas celebrations an appropriate punishment for gays, in the same vein as withholding communion from women?

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
The fascinating juxtaposition of known child molesters being deemed fit to give communion and women on birth control being deemed such grave sinners that they are unfit to receive it.

Where on this spectrum does being gay lie? Closer to the molesting priests or to the doomed women? And is shunning from Christmas celebrations an appropriate punishment for gays, in the same vein as withholding communion from women?
You know perfectly well that "child molestation" is considered a grave sin. If you're talking about the church's sad history of allowing/ignoring/hiding instances of child abuse, these only prove that the sin affects the members of the church as it does all human beings. Can you find a church publication that denies this?

So go on being fascinated by this juxtaposition but the simultaneous presence of sinfulness and saving grace within the church is something most Catholics are used to.

Being gay doesn't lie on any spectrum of sinfulness, as I said earlier. And, as I said earlier, no-one is shunned from celebrations. If you're asking whether it should be, I would say no.

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Originally posted by stillropey
You know perfectly well that "child molestation" is considered a grave sin.
Interesting. Is this to say that child molesters are denied communion just as women on birth control are?

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Yes while you're in mortal sin, you cannot recieve the Eucharist.

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Originally posted by stillropey
Yes while you're in mortal sin, you cannot recieve the Eucharist.
But you can administer the service?

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
But you can administer the service?
Part of *administering the service* includes taking communion. The priest doesn't simply consecrate and deliver.

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
Part of *administering the service* includes taking communion. The priest doesn't simply consecrate and deliver.
So, can or cannot a child molesting priest serve communion?

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Originally posted by psychoalpha
if god is up there im sure it dosent matter if your gay....some of the things streight people do in the bedroom should get them stricken of santas christmas list for life!
I'm just curious, is are there things that you can do in the bedroom with your wife which are sinful or were you referring to extramarital stuff? (Obviously I am not talking about raping your wife or other violent behavior).

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
So, can or cannot a child molesting priest serve communion?
Of course he can, and it likely happens everyday in the Catholic world somewhere.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Of course he can, and it likely happens everyday in the Catholic world somewhere.
Well, then we've come full circle, back to my original contention that women on birth control are deemed unfit to receive the very communion that child molesting priests are deemed fit to administer.

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Well, then we've come full circle, back to my original contention that women on birth control are deemed unfit to receive the very communion that child molesting priests are deemed fit to administer.
Yeah, isn't that Christianity thing just crazy? I'm tempted to become a cathlic for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Of course he can, and it likely happens everyday in the Catholic world somewhere.
It also likely happens every day in the Catholic world somewhere that a woman using birth control receives communion.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
It also likely happens every day in the Catholic world somewhere that a woman using birth control receives communion.
I thought that was logically impossible.

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
I thought that was logically impossible.
How so? How would they know she's using birth control?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
How so?
Stillropey claims "Mortal sin removes the possibility of receiving the Eucharist."

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