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@divegeester saidGo to UM and search for possible clues to an answer.
Do you class yourself as being a Christian ?
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@pettytalk saidI knew that the Jesus Christ I speak about is not the same one you do; therefore, the same is true when you speak about God as well.
Obviously, that's a moot question for me, as you intend Jesus to be God, the Father.
But regarding Jesus rising from the dead, which occurrence are you referring to? Jesus has risen from the dead many times; too many to enumerate for me, as my current numerical skills do not allow me to count that high.
As regarding God (The Father), I believe that He too has had not ...[text shortened]... es itself from (rising from the dead). If you mean the physical earth, then I would have to say yes.
@pettytalk saidYou have declined to answer this several times PettyTalk, why is that?
Go to UM and search for possible clues to an answer.
“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.”
From 1 Peter 3:15
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@divegeester saidDo not cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet.....
You have declined to answer this several times PettyTalk, why is that?
“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.”
From 1 Peter 3:15
@kellyjay saidOK, fair enough. My Jesus is not the same as the one you speak of. Would you care to discuss how you see them differently? Perhaps yours and mine may have some things in common. You and I have discovered to have some earthly things in common. Now let us see if perhaps we also have some heavenly things in common.
I knew that the Jesus Christ I speak about is not the same one you do; therefore, the same is true when you speak about God as well.
Let me start with the following premise which you will undoubtedly recognize. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?
Let me ask you this. Do you currently possess a soul, besides a body?
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@pettytalk saidPearls?
Do not cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet.....
I’m only asking you if you are a Christian!
@pettytalk saidJesus Christ is the Word of God made flesh the promise of God that was told to Adam and Eve that through her seed would strike the serpent’s head. That throughout scripture one was foretold was coming, God in the flesh, and due to what was told to them a specific line of heritage was maintained kept for Jesus’ life historical heritage so we know who Jesus was. That was not done for anyone else but Jesus.
OK, fair enough. My Jesus is not the same as the one you speak of. Would you care to discuss how you see them differently? Perhaps yours and mine may have some things in common. You and I have discovered to have some earthly things in common. Now let us see if perhaps we also have some heavenly things in common.
Let me start with the following premise which you will u ...[text shortened]... I tell you heavenly things?
Let me ask you this. Do you currently possess a soul, besides a body?
So God is One which means more than just Father, Son, and Holy Spirit being three persons in One Being, but also a perfect oneness of all of His attributes so that no one attribute suffers to satisfy another. There is none like the Lord, He is Holy which is not just His righteousness but that He is set apart.
@pettytalk saidBody, soul and spirit we are living souls with a body.
OK, fair enough. My Jesus is not the same as the one you speak of. Would you care to discuss how you see them differently? Perhaps yours and mine may have some things in common. You and I have discovered to have some earthly things in common. Now let us see if perhaps we also have some heavenly things in common.
Let me start with the following premise which you will u ...[text shortened]... I tell you heavenly things?
Let me ask you this. Do you currently possess a soul, besides a body?
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@kellyjay saidI did not ask for a sermon, especially since I know that one by heart.
Jesus Christ is the Word of God made flesh the promise of God that was told to Adam and Eve that through her seed would strike the serpent’s head. That throughout scripture one was foretold was coming, God in the flesh, and due to what was told to them a specific line of heritage was maintained kept for Jesus’ life historical heritage so we know who Jesus was. That was not ...[text shortened]... here is none like the Lord, He is Holy which is not just His righteousness but that He is set apart.
I simply asked you if you believe that you currently have a soul, as well as a body. It's not a trick question, I assure you.
Well, do you do believe you have a SOUL right now?
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@kellyjay saidOK, disregard my previous post asking again on the soul.
Body, soul and spirit we are living souls with a body.
Now that you say that you believe to be in the possession of a soul, besides the body, do you believe that other people also have a soul, besides their body?
To find more commonalty between us, would you agree that, based on your belief, that I too currently have a soul, as well as body?
I think best to just address one point at time in this kind of dialogue we are trying to have.
I'll await your answer.
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@divegeester saidIf, if, if, if, if. If I were a Christian I would Ya ba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dum. All day long I'd biddy biddy bum......
Pearls?
I’m only asking you if you are a Christian!
@pettytalk saidWe are living souls that currently have a temporary existence in the form of a body. Not sure why you would think anyone would be any different from anyone else in their makeup.
OK, disregard my previous post asking again on the soul.
Now that you say that you believe to be in the possession of a soul, besides the body, do you believe that other people also have a soul, besides their body?
To find more commonalty between us, would you agree that, based on your belief, that I too currently have a soul, as well as body?
I think best to jus ...[text shortened]... ddress one point at time in this kind of dialogue we are trying to have.
I'll await your answer.
@pettytalk saidYou asked why I thought the Jesus I believed in was different than yours. My explanation was clearly showing you who I believe He is and why I believe that, I assumed you would do the same for who Jesus is instead of accusing me of giving you a sermon. You believe Jesus is…?
I did not ask for a sermon, especially since I know that one by heart.
I simply asked you if you believe that you currently have a soul, as well as a body. It's not a trick question, I assure you.
Well, do you do believe you have a SOUL right now?
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@pettytalk saidI can see why you were called out for being a prick at UM.
If, if, if, if, if. If I were a Christian I would Ya ba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dibba dum. All day long I'd biddy biddy bum......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1TC1n9lhXU
I’ve never met a Christian who was embarrassed to say they were.
So clearly you aren’t one.
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@pettytalk saidI'm thinking that neither of you understands the true value of the Pearl of Great Price.
Do not cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet.....