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God Condoned Chattel Slavery

God Condoned Chattel Slavery

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Originally posted by @freakykbh to Ghost of a Duke
The camel in this telling is the insistence, informed by ignorance, arrogance or both--- and you've taken pains to inform any and all regarding your 'successful' theological studies--- is the idea that God is inexplicably evil, not good.
Ghost of a Duke is an atheist. He doesn't believe your particular god figure exists. It's the mythology you subscribe to and the ideology attendant thereto that he's taking issue with.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Ghost of a Duke is an atheist. He doesn't believe your particular god figure exists. It's the mythology you subscribe to and the ideology attendant thereto that he's taking issue with.
Indeed. My studies, which theists like Freaky would have me apologize for, left me in no doubt that the God portrayed in the Old Testament is petty and at times monstrous. (And not just on the topic of slavery).

When a Christian finds themselves having to explain God describing people as property, or justifying bears being sent to rip children apart, then they really do need to take a step back and have a good think about what they are subscribing to.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Do you think it was wrong for Meechan to be put in gaol for making his pug dog raise his paw to the words "Sieg Heil"? If so, why?
Of course. What sort of person puts someone in jail for a crass joke.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Go and answer the question on the Spirituality Forum thread you ran away from.
Send me a PM about that and we can arrange a time & place.

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Just like you don't post in debates, I have this one, weird quirk where I like to do a lot of business through PMs.

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FMF: Do you think it was wrong for Meechan to be put in gaol for making his pug dog raise his paw to the words "Sieg Heil"? If so, why?

Originally posted by @philokalia
Of course. What sort of person puts someone in jail for a crass joke.
What are your terms of reference for objecting to him being put in gaol for what he did?

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Originally posted by @fmf
What are your terms of reference for objecting to him being put in gaol for what he did?
My natural sense of right and wrong is sufficient.

I do not need some piece of paper that says "NATURAL RIGHTS" to believe something like that.

Just as such, I am not confused when a guy runs around naked shouting obscenities against the Pope that "maybe this is free speech and not lunacy."

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Those are just some of the benefit sof not being chained into rationalist classical liberalism that can't wipe its own butt.

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Originally posted by @philokalia
My natural sense of right and wrong is sufficient.

I do not need some piece of paper that says "NATURAL RIGHTS" to believe something like that.
If it had been legally impossible for the authorities in the country in which Meechan lives to gaol him for what he did, and if he was now walking free, would that have been better than what has happened?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Sorry, all I hear when you speak is 'flat Earth,' 'acts of terrorism are fake." It contaminates everything you post.
Don't fret about it too much, friend.
I have a hard time hearing any actual kindness despite the considerable effort you put into the words otherwise.
We all have our crosses to bear, it seems.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Ghost of a Duke is an atheist. He doesn't believe your particular god figure exists. It's the mythology you subscribe to and the ideology attendant thereto that he's taking issue with.
You either read too quickly or heard too thickly.
The contrast laid out for GoaD was related to his current love in comparison to his first.

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Originally posted by @sonship
Ok so you have found that you don’t like me or you don’t like my posts which challenge your beliefs and have decided that the bast way to keep your own beliefs intact is to not engage.

I suppose this is your prerogative, but it’s a little cowardly isnt it. It also reveals that you are unable to defend your beliefs. Unless there is something else in my posts which you can point to...and it is this you are avoiding?

Meanwhile the question remains sonship; is slavery, the owning of another person as property, morally justifiable in your opinion?

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Originally posted by @freakykbh
Don't fret about it too much, friend.
I have a hard time hearing any actual kindness despite the considerable effort you put into the words otherwise.
We all have our crosses to bear, it seems.
Your cross is heavy indeed, and of your own manufacture.

Sort yourself out.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
"And the command from the law of God was not to go out and beat the servant. It was provision for the event that a beating occurred."


Indeed, and it was God's view that no punishment was due if the slave recovered in a day or two (Due to being the property of the owner). Do you truly not glean the abhorrence in that?!
So, unable to deal with this post sonship, you threw your rattle out of the pram and created a new thread about how I and others think we are more righteous than Jesus.

Classy.

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
So, unable to deal with this post sonship, you threw your rattle out of the pram and created a new thread about how I and others think we are more righteous than Jesus.

Classy.
I think sonship may have blown a morality gasket.

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