God created us

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Don't confuse me with the Bible, I simply believe what it says, I didn't make up the first
chapters of Genesis. If you are going to call that nonsense, than be up front and call
scripture nonsense!

Pointing at my name for what the Bible says isn't being very, honest. If you are going
to judge the scripture wrong, man up and do it.

Originally posted by @rajk999
The bible never said that the whole of the bible is the Gospel or the Good News. Neither is the whole of the bible about Christ. That is YOUR statement.t

Originally posted by @kellyjay
[b]"And back up those specifics with passages from the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry."

Is that it, the foundational view for you on how you view Jesus Christ?

You think the gospel preached by Jesus, "...during His ministry." was just during the time
He walked as the Son of Man? You believe that is all from Him, that God sha ...[text shortened]... the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.[/b]

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Do you think you get back to the matter at hand?

You made the following assertion:
<<Jesus said that unless we believe in Him we are condemned already.>>

I agreed that Jesus said that in the gospel preached by Him during His ministry and asked the following:
<<In the gospel preached by Him during His ministry, what did Jesus say believing in Him ...[text shortened]... ted a vague response.and so I asked you to be specific.

You've been avoiding this ever since.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
f*** off

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Actually I am attempting to figure out what you mean by “during His ministry”, since you are of the mindset not all scriptures are valid. So before I can answer your question I have to understand what that range is that you find acceptable and why.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b][b]Actually I am attempting to figure out what you mean by “during His ministry”, since you are of the mindset not all scriptures are valid. So before I can answer your question I have to understand what that range is that you find acceptable and why.

C'mon KJ. What BS. It's dishonest. It's what you do.

If you simply wanted to know what "ran ...[text shortened]... he
case, the way you view things, you really have a small god, and nothing but a dead Jesus.>>[/b]

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You pick and choose what your calling good scripture as you do good writers. You are vague as to what criteria you use to decide what is good and bad. You put Luke and the book of Acts in question, all the writing of Paul and Peter. You seem to be suggesting you only accept Jesus in part so how am I or anyone else suppose to know what is good for you or not? Be specific draw out some boundaries to work within!

Originally posted by @thinkofone
I'll give you a little advice. The way to make up for spewing BS isn't to double down with more BS.

What part of the following didn't you understand?
<<If you simply wanted to know what "range" I had in mind with "during His ministry", you would have asked, "What is the range you have in mind with 'during His ministry'?" >>
For that matter what part ...[text shortened]... o be one of the most dishonest posters on this forum. You know nothing of the "Spirit of Truth".

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You are one dodging not me, I have been consistently asking for clarification you are refusing to give.

You guys should make a better effort to understand each other's questions.

I don't think there's dishonesty, just bad communication.

Originally posted by @chaney3
You guys should make a better effort to understand each other's questions.

I don't think there's dishonesty, just bad communication.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Don’t think so, if mine were the only questions he refused or tried to ignore I would say once again you have a good point. He simply wants to avoid being specific about his views and demands details from others.

Shame to great topic but alas I cannot answer him without details.

Originally posted by @chaney3
You guys should make a better effort to understand each other's questions.

I don't think there's dishonesty, just bad communication.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
KJ has a long history of pulling this type of BS. It's what he does. He accuses others of doing what he does, then he acts all innocent about it.

For example, he has repeatedly accused rajk999 of such things as "ignoring verses" and "adding to what the verses say" when he's the one who does it. He's not only a hypocrite, he's so dishonest about it.
...[text shortened]... with his history on this forum, perhaps you'd be better able to understand what's at work here.