15 Apr 12
Originally posted by JS357Lol...
Maybe the modern person feels him or herself to have achieved equivalent surrender by having no internet connection.
There was one monk with long hair. Very pretty long hair.
When it was time for him to cut his hair in order to continue being a monk he did not hesitate, as some others thought he would.
The master, upon seeing this said "Because I can see that you are willing to let go of your hair freely and without attachment , then I allow you to keep it "
16 Apr 12
Originally posted by whodeyNo, actually it refers to you theists as sheep. Us atheists who ask too many questions are goats. Anyone who has kept sheep and goats would understand the analogy. Goats do not like to be told what to do. They do not go round mowing the lawn, they eat all the flowers instead. Goats are generally more intelligent and independent.
The Bible refers to the human race as "sheep".
16 Apr 12
Originally posted by karoly aczelIt's easy to trick yourself because of the ego problem. I think a True Guru would be the safest and most direct way. True Gurus are hard to find. Even ones that have power can be problematic. Look at the case of Adai Da for that matter. Very powerful man, but full of hard to understand behavior.
If there is no bonafide guru then we must persevere ourselves.
One may find you in your lifetime.
Interestingly rvsakhadeo said his guru died many years ago (1978) and I lost mine about 7-8 years ago. After all, he didn't have a mobile phone and he was more or less a "wandering monk".
All this says to me that we are in a different age. An age of being ones own guru, ones own master.
17 Apr 12
Originally posted by RJHindsKeep out of it !!! Usually I like people chiming in - but with you it's just butting in.
No, dummy, he is saying your world view is skrewed up.
More to the point, my world view is incomplete- and for very good reason. The world keeps changing, so for an accurate world view your ideas need to change with that.
This is just one factor in getting a decent all round holistic world view happening.
So much easier to keep the wool over your eyes buy quoting from that tiresome old holy book that so many seem to loathe, rather than trying to actually see what is really out there.
17 Apr 12
Originally posted by twhiteheadI see they* like to skrew with the meanings here to suit their agenda at the time.
No, actually it refers to you theists as sheep. Us atheists who ask too many questions are goats. Anyone who has kept sheep and goats would understand the analogy. Goats do not like to be told what to do. They do not go round mowing the lawn, they eat all the flowers instead. Goats are generally more intelligent and independent.
How very short-sighted. An entrenched habit it seems.
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17 Apr 12
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Originally posted by josephwThere is a rather lengthy discussion of authority at:
So, what is the source of authority to which you refer when claiming to have "God's world view"?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3294134/Myth-and-Religion-The-Edited-Transcripts-Alan-Watts-Love-of-Wisdom-Library
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Alan Watts, on Ultimate Authority
Page 6 finally gets to this: "The guru's authority comes from you. The place in life where you are is where you have put yourself. Just as on the surface of the sphere every point may be regarded as the center of the surface, so every place maybe regarded as the true place. Everyone is in their true place. In whatever language you [s]ay it, everybody is a manifestation of the divine, playing this game and that game. Your not knowing it, if you do not know it, is part of the game."
In my view, we each have ultimate authority, whether we want it or not. It goes together with ultimate responsibility. Without one, we do not have the other.