How can YEC's ignore ALL the data of old Earth?

Originally posted by Suzianne
It can certainly be used to prove that the earth is over 6,000 years old, though.

Yes. I think it can be used to date date objects at about fortyfive or fifty thousand years old.

Originally posted by Suzianne
I've heard 60,000, but that's splitting hairs. Carbon 14 has a half-life of around 5,750 years as I recall.

Oh, I replied too fast there. You guys already had it covered. 😳

Originally posted by KellyJay
The day Adam was created how old do you think he looked?
KJ

Magic. What a wonderful argument. 🙄

Originally posted by C Hess
Magic. What a wonderful argument. 🙄

I guess you have something in the realm of science that shows where
everything came from? If not, magic is pretty much all you got too!
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I guess you have something in the realm of science that shows where
everything came from? If not magic is pretty much all you got too!
Kelly

Religious approach: I don't understand it, therefore it's magic.
Scientific approach: I don't understand it, therefore I investigate.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Don't believe it.

You maintain deliberate ignorance so your core belief's won't be shaken. If you actually studied C14 dating you may come to a different conclusion but the sad fact is your cognitive dissonance will not let you even study the subject, that way you can continue to deny deny deny without shaking your core foundations using your deliberate ignorance.

Originally posted by C Hess
Religious approach: I don't understand it, therefore it's magic.
Scientific approach: I don't understand it, therefore I investigate.

You don't have an answer for where everything came from so that is how
you know God didn't do it, since you have nothing to compare God doing
it too! I can see how it is easy to dismiss Him under those conditions
you cannot be shown wrong if you don't offer anything.
Kelly

Originally posted by C Hess
Religious approach: I don't understand it, therefore it's magic.
Scientific approach: I don't understand it, therefore I investigate.

Just so you know, God acting isn't magic in my opinion, supernatural
yes, but not magic.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You don't have an answer for where everything came from so that is how
you know God didn't do it, since you have nothing to compare God doing
it too! I can see how it is easy to dismiss Him under those conditions
you cannot be shown wrong if you don't offer anything.
Kelly

That argument is a slap in the face of all scientists. Since we don't know EVERTYTHING, we know nothing. That is an insult to the intelligence of the human race.

OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING and we never claimed such.

But for you to use that lack of ultimate knowledge in the face of the fact that science as we know it is only a few generations old, 10 generations at most, which means we are in the infancy still in the bigger picture of world knowledge.

We have learned a lot in the last 200 years but we have another 2000 years most likely before we can answer the big questions so for you to use that argument is like scolding a 4 year old for not knowing calculus. I am personally affronted by that specious argument.

Originally posted by sonhouse
That argument is a slap in the face of all scientists. Since we don't know EVERTYTHING, we know nothing. That is an insult to the intelligence of the human race.

OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING and we never claimed such.

But for you to use that lack of ultimate knowledge in the face of the fact that science as we know it is only a few generations ...[text shortened]... ding a 4 year old for not knowing calculus. I am personally affronted by that specious argument.

That is crap, no one asked if you knew everything....just where did it all come
from! No insult, except where you claim you know God didn't do it, because
you do not have any stinking idea where everything came from. The insult is
your own claims of knowledge in areas you have no stinking clue.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You don't have an answer for where everything came from so that is how
you know God didn't do it, since you have nothing to compare God doing
it too! I can see how it is easy to dismiss Him under those conditions
you cannot be shown wrong if you don't offer anything.
Kelly

I don't know from where everything originally came, that's correct. It's also correct that I don't believe in invisible super wizards, so no, I don't think your god created everything. Now, if you can point her out, I promise to consider the possibility.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Just so you know, God acting isn't magic in my opinion, supernatural
yes, but not magic.
Kelly

Call it what you will. To me, when someone conjure things into existence, it falls under the general category of wizardry. It's awesome in games and fictional books and movies, but I really can't believe it's happening in the real world.

Originally posted by C Hess
Call it what you will. To me, when someone conjure things into existence, it falls under the general category of wizardry. It's awesome in games and fictional books and movies, but I really can't believe it's happening in the real world.

It's not wizardry that created the universe, nor is it believing in wizardry, but it is scientific wizardry the tries to explain away creation.

Science can't comprehend creation. Science can't prove how God created something from nothing, much less how the universe came into existence. We don't have a scientific clue about how God created anything, or how anything came into existence. Old earth, young earth. What does old mean? What does young mean? Pointless to debate it.

Science cannot give evidence for faith. Faith takes God at His Word.

Originally posted by josephw
...scientific wizardry...

Self-contradictory.

Originally posted by C Hess
Self-contradictory.

It is the TRUTH of GOD vs the science fiction of man.