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Peace be upon the people of your world, and of all worlds and venues of existence in this One and Holy Cosmos.
Ceasar-Salad, You believe that the cosmos are holy?
This is benediction of yours seems an interesting combination of Judiasm and Pantheism.
Tell me more about this "the One and Holy Cosmos." Is this a kind of Judaic / Buddhist concept you believe?
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15 Dec 19
The commandments of Christ is certainly a biblical concept.
But He is a living Lord and Savior and sinks deeper and deeper into the personality of those who receive Him and allow Him to spread His influence into their soul.
For this reason "the commandments of Christ" can be so fine, so minute, on such a "quantum" level, and so tailored to the individual, they are impossible to exhaustively codify.
There is this kind of "painting" of His personality into ours in an anointing fashion. That is a moving around in our heart of His Spirit teaching His fine and detailed wished within our being.
This "paint" of the anointing seeks to get into all the crevices and cracks of our soul so we learn Him in all things - minutely, "microscopically," finely, and ever deepening personal detail.
"And you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know. I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it and because no le is of the truth."
We will learn that that anointing is trustworthy. It is a living anointing because to receive Jesus Christ is to miraculously receive a living Person into your heart.
"And as for you, the anointing which you hve received from Him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone teach you; but as his anointing teaches you concerning all things and is true and is not a lie, even as it has taught you, abide in Him."
When a Christian teacher is dealing with other Christians she or he must be sensitive to what degree the hearer may be conscious of the anointing Spirit. Since we Christians are all learners and none have arrived to full maturity usually, in love, we have to discern what level of growth roughly, we are in relation to others.
Damage can be done when a teacher places something upon the conscience of another Christian whose capacity to go along with the anointing Spirit is still yet developing. To not be sensitive to this can lead to a rigid legalism.
15 Dec 19
@rajk999 saidThe question, if you could actually comprehend it, is how are the commandments realized.
You know what the commandments of Christ are.
I dont know why you need to ask such a dumb question.
Even the atheists on this site know what they are.
The question is loaded with inferences relative to the experience of the second birth.
But, because of the malignancy of the character of your posting history I have little confidence you can comprehend what the Bible teaches about the experience of the new birth.
15 Dec 19
@divegeester said"Everything" you said was, "Another day, another sonship blog about something he’s read elsewhere by somebody else."
Everything I said was bang-on true.
But nothing about the topic.
So, really, you have said nothing.
15 Dec 19
@sonship removed their quoted postEphesians 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
It is understandable that unregenerate unbelievers will misunderstand you sonship, and level their accusations against you personally, and fail to address the points you lay out in your posts, but it's quite another thing when those that claim to be "followers of Jesus" and "born again Christians" to criticize you personally and fail to understand what you're talking about and contribute positive sentiments and biblical thoughts relative to the topic you have initiated in this thread.
1 Peter 2:15
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
Persevere sonship in well doing. As caeser-salad said, "Peace be upon the people of your world, and of all worlds and venues of existence in this One and Holy Cosmos."
Luke 2:14
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
I'm pretty sure caesar-salad isn't a pantheist.
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He is interested in panentheism [sic]. That is a bit different from pantheism. I have something on it. I do not handily recall without restudy.
I think he has done a lot of thinking about it.
But not everyone wants to talk about their philosophy here.
15 Dec 19
@secondson saidI was commenting on the ubiquitous issue in this forum of a regular contributor who treats it like his own personal blog.
"Everything" you said was, "Another day, another sonship blog about something he’s read elsewhere by somebody else."
But nothing about the topic.
So, really, you have said nothing.
15 Dec 19
@secondson saidWow, a bunch of negative Bible texts and associated criticism aimed at me by one of my detractors because I’m commenting on the forum etiquette of one his buddies.
Ephesians 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
It is understandable that unregenerate unbelievers will misunderstand you sonship, and level their accusations against you personally, and fail to address the points you lay out in your posts, but it's qui ...[text shortened]... ighest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
I'm pretty sure caesar-salad isn't a pantheist.
Powerful and appropriate use of scripture indeed.
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Do you have something to contribute about how we realize the commandments of Christ ?
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@secondson saidThe words 'realize' or 'realized' is not in the bible. So again this is just another attempt by church people to twist the bible since the bible does not say what they want it to say.
The question, if you could actually comprehend it, is how are the commandments realized.
The question is loaded with inferences relative to the experience of the second birth.
But, because of the malignancy of the character of your posting history I have little confidence you can comprehend what the Bible teaches about the experience of the new birth.
Jesus preached at length and in great detail about how to live and what to do, about righteousness and good works, to many thousands and thousands, and He never once said any such thing about 'realizing the commandments. Jesus told people what to do, and to just GO AND DO IT. Jesus never said anything about realizing the commandments. The instruction is to KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. You church people preach against keeping the commandments and you now are trying to promote the idea that realizing the commandments is what Jesus preached. Its baloney.
Appealing to a secret meeting Jesus had with Nicodemus by night, is not an example of public preaching by Jesus.
You jokers continue to twist the bible to match your church teachings, because your heart is far from God and your aim is to promote your dead faith.
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Jesus preached at length and in great detail about how to live and what to do, about righteousness and good works, to many thousands and thousands, and He never once said any such thing about 'realizing the commandments. Jesus told people what to do, and to just GO AND DO IT. Jesus never said anything about realizing the commandments. The instruction is to KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. You church people preach against keeping the commandments and you now are trying to promote the idea that realizing the commandments is what Jesus preached. Its baloney.
" I will manifest myself to him "
That means the believer will have more and more of Christ revealed to him as to His will and His desire for the believer.
So you're wrong. There are millions and millions of detailed matters in which Christ must manifest to His believers what Christ is doing in that situation within them. They are to go along by abiding in Him.
This is the nature of "To him who has more will be given." You start by loving and obeying and in degrees He further manifests Himself to you.
"He who has My commandments and keeps them, he is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father and I will love him and manifest Myself to him." (John 16:21)
If Christ within as the Holy Spirit does not more and more manifest Himself then how can it be said that the Holy Spirit will GUIDE them into all the reality ?
"I have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
But when He, the Spirit of reality, comes, He will guide you into all the reality, for He will not speak from Himself, but what he hears He will speak;
and He will declare to you the things that are coming." (John 16:12,13)
18 Dec 19
@sonship saidWhatever you say.
@Rajk999
Jesus preached at length and in great detail about how to live and what to do, about righteousness and good works, to many thousands and thousands, and He never once said any such thing about 'realizing the commandments. Jesus told people what to do, and to just GO AND DO IT. Jesus never said anything about realizing the commandments. The instruction is to ...[text shortened]... ill speak;
and He will declare to you the things that are coming." (John 16:12,13) [/b]