@fmf saidLove the definition, but I wonder if we could also add “without love or compassion?”
"Evil" is egregious immorality (as already defined in numerous previous discussions, involving doing harm, deceiving and coercing) and gratuitous, sociopathic action that is gravely detrimental and/or damaging to others, and which stems from an abject lack or even absence of empathy and compassion.
That which results in pain, sorrow, or distress. In order to convey the correct thought in English, the very comprehensive Hebrew word raʽ is variously translated as “bad,” “gloomy,” “ugly,” “evil,” “calamitous,” “malignant,” “ungenerous,” and “envious,” depending upon the context. (Ge 2:9; 40:7; 41:3; Ex 33:4; De 6:22; 28:35; Pr 23:6; 28:22) The Greek word ka·kosʹ may be defined as that which is (1) morally evil and (2) destructive; among the ways it has been translated are: “bad,” “evil,” “hurtful,” “injurious,” “wrong.” (Ro 7:19; 12:17; Col 3:5; Tit 1:12; Heb 5:14) The Hebrew verb qa·lalʹ means “call down evil upon.” INSIGHT 1
@galveston75 saidI cannot go along with this one since pain is required; without it, we would all bleed out or worse. Not everything that happens to us that is painful has an intent towards those ends, and I think the intent is required for evil to be authentic. Stubbing my toe isn't evil but painful.
That which results in pain, sorrow, or distress. In order to convey the correct thought in English, the very comprehensive Hebrew word raʽ is variously translated as “bad,” “gloomy,” “ugly,” “evil,” “calamitous,” “malignant,” “ungenerous,” and “envious,” depending upon the context. (Ge 2:9; 40:7; 41:3; Ex 33:4; De 6:22; 28:35; Pr 23:6; 28:22) The Greek word ka·kosʹ may be ...[text shortened]... 2:17; Col 3:5; Tit 1:12; Heb 5:14) The Hebrew verb qa·lalʹ means “call down evil upon.” INSIGHT 1
@kellyjay saidI agree. We have as much choice as we have, and intent makes the difference.
I cannot go along with this one since pain is required; without it, we would all bleed out or worse. Not everything that happens to us that is painful has an intent towards those ends, and I think the intent is required for evil to be authentic. Stubbing my toe isn't evil but painful.
@kellyjay saidanything that puts oneself above God
Examples of evil would be lies, false balances, greed, reviling, vengeance, murder, rape, lust, stealing, anything that puts oneself above God and others in ways contrary to loving them.
The word "evil" refers to certain kinds of morally unsound behaviour. It is a human social construct, not a supernatural one, even if many humans do superimpose such notions onto the concept in their efforts to make sense of the human condition.
@galveston75 saidOstracizing people, whole families, even their children, over disagreements over doctrine ~ would that be evil?
That which results in pain, sorrow, or distress.
@fmf saidFaith speech.
anything that puts oneself above God
The word "evil" refers to certain kinds of morally unsound behaviour. It is a human social construct, not a supernatural one, even if many humans do superimpose such notions onto the concept in their efforts to make sense of the human condition.
@fmf saidIf all evil and "sin" can be traced back to "Satan", and the Abrahamic God's intention was to have a perfect "sinless" world, according to the theology/folklore, why doesn't God just destroy "Satan" and end the suffering?
KellyJay [on another thread]: "All have sinned and fallen short of God, God who is good. How do you define evil?"
@fmf saidOn the other hand, why don't you just shut your typing yap and stop being such a stirrer?
If all evil and "sin" can be traced back to "Satan", and the Abrahamic God's intention was to have a perfect "sinless" world, according to the theology/folklore, why doesn't God just destroy "Satan" and end the suffering?
@fmf saidHow does that “end the suffering” when man’s sin nature is still in him?
If all evil and "sin" can be traced back to "Satan", and the Abrahamic God's intention was to have a perfect "sinless" world, according to the theology/folklore, why doesn't God just destroy "Satan" and end the suffering?
Do you think men and women will become perfect and sinless if God destroyed Satan?
Are you aware that Lucifer took a third of the angels with him when he was cast out of Heaven? Does God get to destroy them too?
@kevin-eleven saidI think your question, put plainly, is:
@FMF
What of your own behavior would you be willing to admit was evil, even in humanistic terms?
Do you, FMF, think trolling and bearing false witness are evil?
That gets right to the heart of the matter as far as the SF is concerned.