14 Apr 16
Originally posted by checkbaiter"Approve" is not quite the right word. How about "welcome" instead? If the difference between you carrying out morally sound and morally unsound acts is your belief in the Bible, then I welcome the fact that you choose to carry out morally sound acts on this basis.
Thanks, I feel better now that you approve.
14 Apr 16
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"37 United States 78.6"........
"27 United Kingdom 80.5" Years..........
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/your-life-expectancy-by-age
"On a more serious note: are you saying that heaven doesn't have an internet connection?"
twhitehead, "an internet connection" won't be necessary. Why would that be so?
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/your-life-expectancy-by-age
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIts "brevity" compared to what in the history human experience (as opposed to the human imagination)? A lifespan of 60-80 years is a long time, especially when compared to the past. It may be twice as long as our counterparts a mere few hundred years ago. It's long enough to raise children, to witness 4-5 generations, to travel the world etc. What sense of bleakness or lack of fulfillment would make a person refer to life's supposed "brevity" and does this pessimism perhaps explain the need in some people for retail religion?
On the brevity of our temporal life on planet earth.
14 Apr 16
Originally posted by FMFOriginally posted by FMF
Its "brevity" compared to what in the history human experience (as opposed to the human imagination)? A lifespan of 60-80 years is a long time, especially when compared to the past. It may be twice as long as our counterparts a mere few hundred years ago. It's long enough to raise children, to witness 4-5 generations, to travel the world etc. What sense of bleaknes ...[text shortened]... posed "brevity" and does this pessimism perhaps explain the need in some people for retail religion?
Its "brevity" compared to what in the history human experience (as opposed to the human imagination)?
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“The frame, the definition, is a type of context. And context, as we said before, determines the meaning of things. There is no such thing as the view from nowhere, or from everywhere for that matter. Our point of view biases our observation, consciously and unconsciously. You cannot understand the view without the point of view.” ―Noam Shpancer, The Good Psychologist
14 Apr 16
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyDo you think your personal perspective ~ that the duration of life ought to be decribed as having "brevity" ~ is one of the things that causes you to seek consolation from religion?
Originally posted by FMF
Its "brevity" compared to what in the history human experience (as opposed to the human imagination)?
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“The frame, the definition, is a type of context. And context, as we said before, determines the meaning of things. There is no such thing as the view from nowhere, or from everywhere for that matter ...[text shortened]... You cannot understand the view without the point of view.” ―Noam Shpancer, The Good Psychologist
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYour Christianity. As someone who, from time to time, frets in public about the "brevity" of life, does your Christian belief ~ by which you have convinced yourself that you are immortal ~ afford you consolation in the face of death, its finality, and its inevitability?
"... consolation from religion?"
What "religion"?
14 Apr 16
Originally posted by divegeesterGrampy Bobby had a copy-paste-fest at one point last year in which the texts he was pasting argued that Christianity is not a religion and did so amidst a mishmash of circular logic and exquisitely and self-servingly specific 'definitions' of what a religion is. Grampy Bobby was completely unable to argue the corner laid out by the material he'd copied and ignored or dodged questions about it. He behaved like he was conceding the argument. So he knows what he's doing now by alluding to it again in such a way as to dodge the question I've asked him. 😉
Why are you being dishonest in pretending that you don't know what FMF is talking about?
Originally posted by divegeesterChristianity involves a relationship with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit based on faith alone in Christ alone and acceptance of the grace gift of salvation and eternal life. There are numerous religions, all of which require good works in order to gain the approval of God and presumably salvation and eternal life. Human righteousness is incompatible with Divine Righteousness.
Why are you being dishonest in pretending that you don't know what FMF is talking about?
Note: Please read John 3:16-18 and Revelation 20.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyChristianity is a religion because...
Christianity involves a relationship with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit based on faith alone in Christ alone and acceptance of the grace gift of salvation and eternal life. There are numerous religions, all of which require good works in order to gain the approval of God and presumably salvation and eternal life. Human righteousness is incompatible with Divine Righteousness.
1. it advocates a belief in a supernatural and divine authority
2. it has a membership defined by a common narrative and efforts
3. it has specific beliefs and doctrines not accepted by non-members.
4. it has designated literature and a theology creating a moral code
You can take theistic religions like Islam and Judaism and replace "Christianity" with them above the list of four characteristics.
Originally posted by divegeesterWhy are you incessantly fault finding in direct contrast to the teaching of Jesus Christ. As someone else stated if you are a Christian then I'm a world war one flying ace.
Why are you being dishonest in pretending that you don't know what FMF is talking about?