17 Aug 14
Originally posted by FMFgeneral forum that away spangly one-------->
You have called this kind of apparently evidence-free conjecture or viewpoint a "mere self-certified opinion" in the past when talking to other posters. Would you apply the expression to yourself in this situation?
watch out your balloon doesn't get caught in a cross wind.😵
17 Aug 14
Originally posted by Proper KnobHave you observed life originating from non living matter? no but you believe it. No contradiction because the supernatural is not subject to the same rigours as the natural.
It seems quite contradictory that on the one hand here you are claiming to be unable to 'feed (your) mind on unobserved phenomena' yet you hold a plethora of religious beliefs which you admit don't hold up to your own statement.
17 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou use the expression "mere self-certified opinion" on THIS forum repeatedly so this is the place to discuss it, especially after reading the content of some of your posts on the last page or two in your exchanges with Proper Knob. You use the label "mere self-certified opinion" to avoid discussing views that are contrary to yours on the Spirituality Forum very often. Does it not apply to you yourself on this topic?
general forum that away spangly one-------->
watch out your balloon doesn't get caught in a cross wind.😵
17 Aug 14
Originally posted by FMFI hear hot air balloons are all the rage for drugged balloonists 😵
You use the expression "mere self-certified opinion" on THIS forum repeatedly so this is the place to discuss it, especially after reading the content of some of your posts on the last page or two in your exchanges with Proper Knob. You use the label "mere self-certified opinion" to avoid discussing views that are contrary to yours on the Spirituality Forum very often. Does it not apply to you yourself on this topic?
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17 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFrom wikipedia:
there are entire books of the Bible contained in the dead sea scrolls, in what universe is that fragmentary
There are 225 Biblical texts included in the Dead Sea Scroll documents, or around 22% of the total, and with deuterocanonical books the number increases to 235. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain parts of all but one of the books of the Tanakh of the Hebrew Bible and the Old Testament protocanon.
22% of the total sounds fragmentary to me. Also remember that there are scriptures not included in the bible, which (it seems to me) makes the bible itself fragmentary to the whole of those scriptures.
Originally posted by C Hess22 percent of a text three thousand years old is huge! Plus that is only the Hebrew text, for the Christian Greek scriptures there are zillions of papyri , codices and manuscripts.
From wikipedia:
There are 225 Biblical texts included in the Dead Sea Scroll documents, or around 22% of the total, and with deuterocanonical books the number increases to 235. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain parts of all but one of the books of the Tanakh of the Hebrew Bible and the Old Testament protocanon.
22% of the total sounds fragmen ...[text shortened]... ble, which (it seems to me) makes the bible itself fragmentary to the whole of those scriptures.
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17 Aug 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAren't the coptic versions translations from the septuagint which in turn are translations from the original hebrew scriptures (with some references back to earlier greek manuscripts), with all the originals now lost to us?
Sahidic coptic text is third century and was copied from earlier Greek manuscript second century and contains entire books of the Greek scriptures.
17 Aug 14
Originally posted by C Hessoriginals are lost but Septuagint is a translation from Hebrew into Greek for Hellenized Jews who couldn't read or understand Hebrew. I don't know if the Coptic texts are copies of the Septuagint, they could be i would need to check on what its thought they are based.
Aren't the coptic versions translations from the septuagint which in turn are translations from the original hebrew scriptures (with some references back to earlier greek manuscripts), with all the originals now lost to us?
17 Aug 14
Originally posted by twhiteheadand yet the irony of the matter is we are the ones who have not limited our search for truth to unintelligent agencies! better fire up that balloon and get over there fast.
Its nothing new. Its been known since the time of Darwin. Its only people like you with religious blinkers that haven't observed it.