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Originally posted by HandyAndy
What bad thing haven't you done?
I haven't made a truth claim that I cannot substantiate.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I haven't made a truth claim that I cannot substantiate.
Substantiate this one.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Substantiate this one.
which one, i have only made two. Pilate was real and his actions were corroborated by secular historian Tacitus. Shall we look at your claims.

1. the Bible is fictional.
2. the book of Genesis is myth
3. the events recorded in it are unreasonable

evidence, nil.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
which one, i have only made two. Pilate was real and his actions were corroborated by secular historian Tacitus. Shall we look at your claims.

1. the Bible is fictional.
2. the book of Genesis is myth
3. the events recorded in it are unreasonable

evidence, nil.
Pilates actions were also corroborated by robbie carrobie on RHP. But neither he nor Tacitus were doing anything more than reporting claims that originated in the Biblical books whose veracity is being discussed. Tacitus, just like you, did not have an independent source of information, and thus is no more useful as a corroborator than you.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
which one, i have only made two. Pilate was real and his actions were corroborated by secular historian Tacitus. Shall we look at your claims.

1. the Bible is fictional.
2. the book of Genesis is myth
3. the events recorded in it are unreasonable

evidence, nil.
Are you really this stupid, or just pretending? Substantiate this one:

I haven't made a truth claim that I cannot substantiate.

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Are you really this stupid, or just pretending? Substantiate this one:

I haven't made a truth claim that I cannot substantiate.
I just popped in to substantiate my substantiation claim. Give it up you slobbery drooler and get with the groove.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I just popped in to substantiate my substantiation claim. Give it up you slobbery drooler and get with the groove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhTVSatyN90
{Dancing uncontrollably, singing: I just dropped in to see what cond...}

Wait a minute! You just killed my thread, didn't you!? Oh, it's on! You're going down zen master. You do not kill my threads, dammit!

{...ition my condition was in! Yeaaaah...}

Is it true that song was meant to deter LSD use? Because it kinda makes me want to get high. Not that I ever do that sort of thing, of course. I mean, life!

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Originally posted by C Hess
...is a source consisting of numerous incomplete, badly translated, now largely missing sources?

Ancient Bibles: http://youtu.be/tmVY1Az5ij4

I found this most enlightening. I always doubted that the bible was a reliable source, mainly because it was compiled by a group of men with their own agenda (choosing what goes in and what is left out) long after the events took place, but apparently the problem is even bigger than that. Or what say ye?
"Or what say ye?"

I'd say you are blind to the truth. If there be a God that communicated His word to man, would He not then preserve it? Of course He would! It's the only rational conclusion on the matter.

The only way that it could be said that the Word of God isn't intact and 100% reliable is if God didn't exist.

You don't know that for a fact, do you?

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Originally posted by C Hess
...is a source consisting of numerous incomplete, badly translated, now largely missing sources?

Ancient Bibles: http://youtu.be/tmVY1Az5ij4

I found this most enlightening. I always doubted that the bible was a reliable source, mainly because it was compiled by a group of men with their own agenda (choosing what goes in and what is left out) long after the events took place, but apparently the problem is even bigger than that. Or what say ye?
Maybe it would cause wonderment for you if you would consider this. The catholic monks who compiled the bible did not have axis to the Dead Sea scrolls. Yet the Dead Sea scrolls confirm most of what was in the bible.

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Originally posted by josephw
"Or what say ye?"

I'd say you are blind to the truth. If there be a God that communicated His word to man, would He not then preserve it? Of course He would! It's the only rational conclusion on the matter.

The only way that it could be said that the Word of God isn't intact and 100% reliable is if God didn't exist.

You don't know that for a fact, do you?
No, but how the bible was put together makes it a very real and likely possibility that it doesn't represent god's word, should she actually exist. Let me ask you this. We know for a fact that certain parts of the english translations (like the aforementioned word virgin) are mistranslations. Would your god allow mistranslations to pass for his uncorrupted word?

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Originally posted by Pudgenik
Maybe it would cause wonderment for you if you would consider this. The catholic monks who compiled the bible did not have axis to the Dead Sea scrolls. Yet the Dead Sea scrolls confirm most of what was in the bible.
It's not what they confirm that's interesting, but that these 22% of the original writings already reveal mistakes made in the bible. Who knows how many mistakes exist in the whole of the bible?

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Originally posted by C Hess
It's not what they confirm that's interesting, but that these 22% of the original writings already reveal mistakes made in the bible. Who knows how many mistakes exist in the whole of the bible?
I don't know where you came up with this nonsense, but it is wrong. We don't even have the original writings to compare with the copies. The King James Version uses the majority texts to determine the original text. Portions are also verified by what the early church fathers wrote when they quoted from it.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't know where you came up with this nonsense...
Video in the OP and the wikipedia link I gave earlier in this thread.

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Originally posted by C Hess
Video in the OP and the wikipedia link I gave earlier in this thread.
I looked at the video and did not hear or see that 22% of the original writings already reveal mistakes made in the bible. Perhaps that was in the wikipedia article, but you apparently forgot to give that link.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I looked at the video and did not hear or see that 22% of the original writings already reveal mistakes made in the bible. Perhaps that was in the wikipedia article, but you apparently forgot to give that link.
Page 7 of this very thread.

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