19 Aug 15
Originally posted by sonshipEternal punishment only makes sense if God is perfect.
Okay, I'll say a little about eternal punishment. Just a little.
This is my personal position on this dreadful matter.
Eternal punishment only makes sense if God is perfect.
Eternal punishment does not make sense if God is less just than His creatures. It makes no sense of God if faulty or capable of wrong doing.
Eternal punishment perhaps m ...[text shortened]... that in Jesus Christ God Himself went [b]so far that we would be reconciled to God.[/b]
And all your cronies here lap up this twisted nonsense and attack me for calling you on it. Incredible.
Originally posted by sonshipI get that the torture of people for thoughtcrimes ~ for eternity ~ is OK in your mind and that you describe it as "perfect" and "Righteousness", "Goodness", "Love" and "Justice" etc. I even note that you capitalize some of the words, presumably to add weight to them. But I was rather hoping you'd explain how you can claim it has any moral coherence. That you assert it is, in your personal view, "perfect" and make this assertion over and over again at length is not enough.
Okay, I'll say a little about eternal punishment. Just a little.
This is my personal position on this dreadful matter.
Eternal punishment only makes sense if God is perfect.
Eternal punishment does not make sense if God is less just than His creatures. It makes no sense of God if faulty or capable of wrong doing.
Eternal punishment perhaps m ...[text shortened]... that in Jesus Christ God Himself went [b]so far that we would be reconciled to God.[/b]
20 Aug 15
The post that was quoted here has been removedThis is an interesting and different thread. Thanks for posting it. I had hoped that the men could perhaps give another angle to the conversation, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.
I respect this woman's decision as a public commitment of her faith. It's definitely not for everyone and I'm not surprised there are only 230 'consecrated virgins' in the US. But I'm glad that there are still women in America who are serious about their faith to this degree.
20 Aug 15
Originally posted by Suziannesonship opened the topic of eternal punishment so why don't you address him directly?
I doubt that Duchess has created this thread to talk about eternal punishment, so if you all don't mind too terribly much, could you take this to one of the other two billion threads about it please?
20 Aug 15
Originally posted by SuzianneHere's another angle for you:
I had hoped that the men could perhaps give another angle to the conversation, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.
Some women have the propensity to emotionalise Christian spirituality to the point of confusing the masculinity of the the revealed God, with the call to his "bride", which is the entire church. This misnomer makes trite of the dynamic between Christ and his bride; it is a gross error which only women fall into.
20 Aug 15
Originally posted by divegeesterYes.
Here's another angle for you:
Some women have the propensity to emotionalise Christian spirituality to the point of confusing the masculinity of the the revealed God, with the call to his "bride", which is the entire church. This misnomer makes trite of the dynamic between Christ and his bride; it is a gross error which only women fall into.
Some women.
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20 Aug 15
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Originally posted by divegeesterAnd all your cronies here lap up this twisted nonsense and attack me for calling you on it. Incredible.
[b]Eternal punishment only makes sense if God is perfect.
And all your cronies here lap up this twisted nonsense and attack me for calling you on it. Incredible.[/b]
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I do not have "cronies" on this Forum. I do have some brothers and sisters in Christ. And by a long shot, they don't always agree with everything I write.
The closest poster I know to my views on this Forum is brother kevinlee from the Philippines. And even he has corrected or rebuked me in PM and in public.
So I have no "cronies" sir.
Now I am going to look above at a few comments and see if any response I would have could kind of relate discussion to the subject of this thread on marrying Jesus.
20 Aug 15
Originally posted by sonshipYou have them whether you want them or not. They are those posters who may well be your "bothers and sisters in Christ", and who may very well disagree with you, but who nonetheless will not do so because of their cronyism. You may not like my words but they are the truth as I see it.
I do not have "cronies" on this Forum. I do have some brothers and sisters in Christ. And by a long shot, they don't always agree with everything I write.
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Originally posted by divegeesterIts irrelevant really, to the truth as taught in the Word of God.
You have them whether you want them or not. They are those posters who may well be your "bothers and sisters in Christ", and who may very well disagree with you, but who nonetheless will not do so because of their cronyism. You may not like my words but they are the truth as I see it.
Okay, say I have cronies. Say I have real friendly cronies.
Let's see if it changes anything:
" For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone who believes into Him may not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
Doesn't seem to change anything. Does it?
Now let's say I have NO cronies. Let's say every poster on this Forum can't stand my presence and participation here.
Let's see what effect is has.
" For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone who believes into Him may not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)
Hmmm. No change, It seems to have no effect on John 3:16 whether I have cronies or not. Herein is the main thing. No?