16 Aug 16
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk to Ghost of a Duke an atheistHas it been your experience when interacting with atheists that their definition of "righteous actions" are framed in terms of what you claim are "God's commandments"?
Indeed Sir. Tell me more about your righteous actions. Have you never broken any of God's commandments?
16 Aug 16
Originally posted by FMFOnly when they claim, "It is scripturally supported that God will excuse my unbelief and welcome me into his kingdom, based on the law that is instinctively written on my heart, governing my righteous actions."
Has it been your experience when interacting with atheists that their definition of "righteous actions" are framed in terms of what you claim are "God's commandments"?
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16 Aug 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIn fairness, I did immediately deploy the smug emoticon to convey sarcastic swagger.
Only when they claim, "It is scripturally supported that God will excuse my unbelief and welcome me into his kingdom, based on the law that is instinctively written on my heart, governing my righteous actions."
And it was not my claim. The 'claim' comes straight from the bible. Are you not familiar with that particular passage?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkGosh. You're not very quick on the uptake are you? You did not understand Ghost of a Duke's meaning at all. 😕
Only when they claim, "It is scripturally supported that God will excuse my unbelief and welcome me into his kingdom, based on the law that is instinctively written on my heart, governing my righteous actions."
edit: ah I see he has set you straight.
16 Aug 16
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeWhen you say it is scripturally supported you are referring to the Bible as a whole or one passage that you have taken out of context?
In fairness, I did immediately deploy the smug emoticon to convey sarcastic swagger.
And it was not my claim. The 'claim' comes straight from the bible. Are you not familiar with that particular passage?
16 Aug 16
Originally posted by FMFI have said before that people are capable of 'righteous actions' by their own standards since people can call anything they do 'righteous' since they are the sole judges of what 'righteous' means to them.
Are you in agreement with KellyJay who thinks that only Christians like him are capable of "righteous actions"?
I think the real discussion is whether people's 'own righteousness' is can get them into heaven. I think the scriptures are clear that our best works are like filthy rags. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. So no, I don't think anyone even Kelly and myself are good enough on our own accord to get into heaven. No one is.
16 Aug 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkGosh. I'm not sure why my question prompted such a clumsy dodge from you. I'll try again. Do you think that only Christians are capable of what are, in your view, "righteous actions"?
I have said before that people are capable of 'righteous actions' by their own standards since people can call anything they do 'righteous' since they are the sole judges of what 'righteous' means to them.
16 Aug 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkBlimey. The second half of your "answer" was a dodge as well. I didn't ask you if you think you and Kelly are good enough on your own accord to get into heaven. What I asked was: "Are you in agreement with KellyJay who thinks that only Christians like him are capable of "righteous actions"?"
I think the real discussion is whether people's 'own righteousness' is can get them into heaven. I think the scriptures are clear that our best works are like filthy rags. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. So no, I don't think anyone even Kelly and myself are good enough on our own accord to get into heaven. No one is.