Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI think you missed the point. If an omniscient god exists, then 'luck' and 'chance' do not. They are mutually exclusive. If God exists then games of chance do not.
Another good point. Though "... he couldn't play" unless He played only the cards and games His omniscience knew would win.
The above may be disputed depending on what you understand by 'luck' or 'chance'. But, the fact remains that if he knows the outcome, he is not relying on chance or luck and thus cheating.
22 May 15
Originally posted by twhitehead'luck' and 'chance' apply to us and the rest of the human race, not to Jesus Christ.
I think you missed the point. If an omniscient god exists, then 'luck' and 'chance' do not. They are mutually exclusive. If God exists then games of chance do not.
Further, if he knows the outcome, he is not relying on chance or luck and thus cheating.
"Bingo" was taken out of context to create a hypothetical game He wouldn't play.
22 May 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIt depends how you define them. I don't think 'chance' applies selectively at all. Either it exists, or it doesn't. It isn't 'applied'.
'luck' and 'chance' apply to us and the rest of the human race, not to Jesus Christ.
"Bingo" was taken out of context to create a hypothetical game He wouldn't play.
Bingo is not a hypothetical game. It is also a game God cannot play without cheating.
22 May 15
Originally posted by twhiteheadOriginally posted by twhitehead
It depends how you define them. I don't think 'chance' applies selectively at all. Either it exists, or it doesn't. It isn't 'applied'.
"Bingo" was taken out of context to create a hypothetical game He wouldn't play.
Bingo is not a hypothetical game. It is also a game God cannot play without cheating.
He would not only 'make it without hesitation' but he could not do otherwise as he would have already have foreseen his own moves as well as those of his opponents.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Bingo! So well said; if for only a fleeting moment, twhitehead, for once we're finally in synch.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Is Bingo your suggestion for the next game Jesus could take up?
Would a supreme being fare any better in a game of luck?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Nah. It's just a colloquial expression in the United States of America
for a game of pure luck which wouldn't interest The G/M.
Edit Note: He may enjoy Blitz Chess on Red Hot Pawn.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Sorry to digress, but do you think luck plays a significant role in our mortal lives?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Marginal though when it's good luck we tend to magnify its importance as if we owned the vault of serendipity.
Decisions matter; they govern the quality of our lives as well as our eternal address.
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Note: Please see the context in which the word "Bingo: was used in the posts above.
Jesus Christ is the thread's topic, not Bingo or any other games of luck. Thanks.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI am perfectly well aware of the context in which bingo was introduced. I can read thank you.
Note: Please see the context in which the word "Bingo: was used in the posts above.
Jesus Christ is the thread's topic, not Bingo or any other games of luck. Thanks.
Please consider next time simply telling me to check the thread rather than laboriously requoting it. you have been cautioned many times in this forum against excessive requoting - it is bad form.
The threads topic was the hypothetical scenario of Jesus getting involved in a Chess site and forum. I think the questions as to whether he can honestly play chess, or play a game of luck like bingo are perfectly legitimate extensions to the threads OP, if you disagree - tough.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThanks for weighing in with your opinion.
I am perfectly well aware of the context in which bingo was introduced. I can read thank you.
Please consider next time simply telling me to check the thread rather than laboriously requoting it. you have been cautioned many times in this forum against excessive requoting - it is bad form.
The threads topic was the hypothetical scenario of Jesus getti ...[text shortened]... luck like bingo are perfectly legitimate extensions to the threads OP, if you disagree - tough.
27 May 15
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)"2) What would we see as His first three thread topics?"
If Jesus Christ Himself Became a Member of Red Hot Pawn...
1) What would He choose for a Site Nickname, Location and Self Proclaimed Forum Title? 2) What would we see as His first three thread topics? 3) What tone and atmosphere would His presence create? 4) Would He treat all posters respectfully? 5) What if any questions would you ask Him in public or in Personal Messages? 6) What would His chess rating be? 7) Other?
Maybe a simple "Q&A" thread. If so, what would His first question likely be?
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'd lean toward one from this list:
"2) What would we see as His first three thread topics?"
Maybe a simple "Q&A" thread. If so, what would His first question likely be?
https://mondaymorningreview.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/137questionsjesusasked/
Probably, after 2000 years of splits:
"Why is my language not clear to you?" (John 8:43)
Edit: Of course it's rhetorical, He knows the answer.
Originally posted by JS357May I ask which one He would ask for our benefit that would not be "rhetorical"?
I'd lean toward one from this list:
https://mondaymorningreview.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/137questionsjesusasked/
Probably, after 2000 years of splits:
"Why is my language not clear to you?" (John 8:43)
Edit: Of course it's rhetorical, He knows the answer.
28 May 15
Originally posted by JS357"2) What would we see as His first three thread topics?"
Does ask Mr. J ask a ? He does not the answer to?
Maybe a simple "Q&A" thread. If so, what would His first question likely be?"
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Jesus Christ begins His thread with a question; someone answers it and then asks Him a question; same format we use.