Originally posted by @rajk999Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.
The teachings of Christ are written in the hearts of all men.
They are the core teachings of all religions.
Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.
There is a contradiction.
28 Feb 18
Originally posted by @sonshipThey - Confucius and Jesus - are both basically saying don't "sin". Christians talking about "forgiveness" is meaningless to the kind of people dj2becker has made this thread about ~ that is to say people who would presumably see "sin" as a metaphor for morally unsound behaviour.
Confucius said that if a man sins against heaven he cannot be forgiven.
Jesus said it is possible for a man to sin against the God of heaven and be forgiven.
There is a contradiction.
Originally posted by @sonshipYou are clueless about the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. Add thousands of years of translations and manipulations. You are just a sad sort of idiot. A dangerous sort, true.
From the Gospels quote one sentence attributed which you think Jesus didn't speak.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneWould you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?
By and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true".
I don't shar ...[text shortened]... many Christians - many of which are antithetical to what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth.
28 Feb 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneThat's a common theme of many religions.
Think the "Golden Rule".
But "the Golden Rule" is not the entirety of the Gospel.
Maybe you wish it was.
But it isn't.
28 Feb 18
Originally posted by @apathistCheck out Dr. Gary Habermas lectures on this.
You are clueless about the unreliability of eyewitness accounts. Add thousands of years of translations and manipulations. You are just a sad sort of idiot. A dangerous sort, true.
The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB
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Originally posted by @sonshipRajk999 wrote the following:
That's a common theme of many religions.
But "the Golden Rule" is not the entirety of the Gospel.
Maybe you wish it was.
But it isn't.
<<The teachings of Christ are written in the hearts of all men.
They are the core teachings of all religions.>>
You seemed to struggling to understand what he might have meant by this.
The fact that you've just written "That's a common theme of many religions" seems to indicate that now you understand.
That's why I gave you the hint.
28 Feb 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerNot sure what you have in mind with this question. Can you elaborate?
Would you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneAnswer it and you will see what I have in mind. 😉
Not sure what you have in mind with this question. Can you elaborate?
28 Feb 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerTaken at face value, most don't follow them including most Christians, so it's obviously optional.
Answer it and you will see what I have in mind. 😉
Originally posted by @thinkofoneI'm asking whether or not you regard them to be optional?
Taken at face value, most don't follow them including most Christians, so it's obviously optional.
28 Feb 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIt's optional for the people your thread OP is about.
Would you say it is optional or obligatory to follow the teachings of Jesus?