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Originally posted by Proper Knob
The Watchtower has just lost a multi-million dollar law suit because it's procedures with regard to child abuse have been found to be unlawful. I'm sorry if it's a bitter pill to swallow, but that is a fact. Now if you want to know why that is why don't you read through the trial transcripts yourself, i'm not going to spoon-feed it to you like you are some small baby.

Suck it up 'Corporate Carrobie®' your organisation has been busted. 🙂
We were apparently found guilty of being complicit in the abuse, evidence, nil. What
you have witnessed is a gross miscarriage of justice, if the brothers appeal it, we will
be exonerated and you will be eating all the bitter pills you can handle! Busted
smusted, the truth shall prevail.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
We were apparently found guilty of being complicit in the abuse, evidence, nil. What
you have witnessed is a gross miscarriage of justice, if the brothers appeal it, we will
be exonerated and you will be eating all the bitter pills you can handle! Busted
smusted, the truth shall prevail.
This issue seems to be the crux of the case -

Observers and reporters of the trial pointed out that the real reason the Watchtower lost the case and may find appeals expensive and fruitless, is because it set very clear policies on how to treat known pedophiles and other criminals within a Kingdom Hall. Board of Elder letters issued by the Watchtower clearly instructed the elders in charge NOT TO REPORT alleged crimes to the local police immediately (in spite of state laws requiring such reports), but rather to call the Watchtower’s Legal Department first for instructions on how to proceed. The Watchtower further complicated their defense by instructing elders NOT TO WARN OTHER MEMBERS that a known molester was in their midst and that they should take steps to protect their children and restrict access to such persons.


http://www.silentlambs.org/Conti.htm

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
This issue seems to be the crux of the case -

Observers and reporters of the trial pointed out that the real reason the Watchtower lost the case and may find appeals expensive and fruitless, is because it set very clear policies on how to treat known pedophiles and other criminals within a Kingdom Hall. Board of Elder letters issued by the Watc ...[text shortened]... r children and restrict access to such persons.


http://www.silentlambs.org/Conti.htm
silent lambs, oh dear, they are really impartial, i am reading the actual court transcript
at the moment,

Candice Conti's lawyers,

And Candace turned, during her high school
years, to self-medicating for treating her trauma and
treating her own feelings that she couldn't share with
anyone. She self-medicated with drugs. And she
self-medicated with a very bad drug, methamphetamine.

taking crack cocaine is self medicating, anyone else on crack because they are self
medicating?

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Lawyers for WTBTS

In this case, Ms. Conti and her lawyers are suing the Fremont Congregation for
negligence. But I think the evidence will show that no one in the congregation, no elder,
no member, no one, saw Mr. Kendrick ever act inappropriately with Ms. Conti. Not only
did no member see it, but Ms. Conti's own parents did not see anything inappropriate.
The evidence will show that as Mr Simons as pointed out, Ms. Conti dd not tell
anyone in the congregation about the abuse until twelve years after it had stopped.

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The elders instructed them (the M'Kendricks) in the case of Andrea, the very next day to
go to the police to and they didn't, so that makes the elders reprehensible, flip sake,
the more of this case I read, the more I am utterly astounded, its unbelievable.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
disciplinary action was taken and an announcement made to the effect that he was no longer a trustworthy character...
So your JW leadership have accepted and acknowledged his guilt; do you acknowledge it also?

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
This issue seems to be the crux of the case -

Observers and reporters of the trial pointed out that the real reason the Watchtower lost the case and may find appeals expensive and fruitless, is because it set very clear policies on how to treat known pedophiles and other criminals within a Kingdom Hall. Board of Elder letters issued by the Watc ...[text shortened]... r children and restrict access to such persons.


http://www.silentlambs.org/Conti.htm
It's shocking that an religious organisation claming to be the sole source of God's truth on earth could behave this way.

Or maybe its not that shocking...

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Originally posted by divegeester
So your JW leadership have accepted and acknowledged his guilt; do you acknowledge it also?
If you read the court transcript you will see that at the outset, the lawyers for the
WTBTS, state that Mkendrick is and I quote, 'the villain', not the congregation of
Johavhs witnesses, do yourself and me a favour and read it for yourself, then you will
not need to ask such thoroughly silly questions in future. Once again , yawn, i am not
contesting that abuse took place, I am not contesting that McKendrick was guilty of
abuse, I am contesting that the congregation was complicit in allowing that abuse to
happen, when in fact, they knew absolutely nothing.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
If you read the court transcript you will see that at the outset, the lawyers for the
WTBTS, state that Mkendrick is and I quote, 'the villain', not the congregation of
Johavhs witnesses, do yourself and me a favour and read it for yourself, then you will
not need to ask such thoroughly silly questions in future.
Your JW leadership have accepted and acknowledged his guilt; do you acknowledge it also?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Your JW leadership have accepted and acknowledged his guilt; do you acknowledge it also?
yawn, yes. Please try to make your comments relevant to what I actually contest, not
that which I am not. This isn't about Mkendricks guilt, it is that the congregation of
Jehovah witnesses were negligent, evidence, nil.

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Originally posted by divegeester
It's shocking that an religious organisation claming to be the sole source of God's truth on earth could behave this way.

Or maybe its not that shocking...
behave what way, the congregation did nothing wrong. When the elders found out
about M'ckedricks abuse of his step daughter they told the family to go to the police.
But i suppose gullible minds will believe anything, especially from a known hate site,
LOL, impartial and objective, the silent lambs.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yawn, yes. Please try to make your comments relevant to what I actually contest, not
that which I am not. This isn't about Mkendricks guilt, it is that the congregation of
Jehovah witnesses were negligent, evidence, nil.
Oh, previously you were saying it was "alledged abuse" and that you would withhold your personal verdict until you had read the transcrips?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Oh, previously you were saying it was "aleged abuse" and that you would withhold your personal verdict until you had read the transcrips?
I am reading them now fatboy, i suggest you inform yourself and do the same, or you
can read the Daily Mail, it should tell you everything you need to know.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
behave what way, the congregation did nothing wrong. When the elders found out
about M'ckedricks abuse of his step daughter they told the family to go to the police.
No one is talking about the wider JW "congregation" - the is about the JW convicted of child molesting, the policies which you say are being held to blame and the leadership's decision to withold information about a convicted child molester - see PK's post at the top of this page. It's a sorry sordid affair to be sure.

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Originally posted by divegeester
No one is talking about the wider JW "congregation" - the is about the JW convicted of child molesting, the policies which you say are being held to blame and the leadership's decision to withold information about a convicted child molester - see PK's post at the top of this page. It's a sorry sordid affair to be sure.
No it isnt, that is where you are wrong, if you read the court transcript, there are
separate actions, one against the perpetrator Kendrick for abuse which I am not
contesting and one against the congregation of Jehovahs witnesses on the basis of
negligence which I am, that is what it is about, look, do yourself and me a favour and
read the court transcripts, her own parents contradict her claims.

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