Originally posted by robbie carrobieYour right they were Human and made mistakes but make a mistake repent and don't make the same mistake again.....In the case of the JWs it's whoever made the proclamations that something was going to happen on this date then the date comes to pass ok now it's this date oh wait no now it's this date.....foolish and seen through by all who can see. If the leaders of the JWs had a sense they would dismiss their past by admitting that those past leaders were in error. I'm not saying that any of God's Apostles are infallible except where God tells them something to write or say and it would be perfection because it came from God.
wow Jesus apostles made errors and mistakes, what are you saying that a servant of God needs to be infallible, if not then really what are you saying? what is your point. why don't you try sticking to what is actually written in the Bible instead of pointing out the past mistakes of Jehovahs witnesses because they provide you with a rather broad and easy target.
Manny
Originally posted by menace71OK the Original Post is Jesus the Almighty God ? Let's honestly look at the scriptures and see right? Let's look at the original languages and words and the context of what the writer was saying
Your right they were Human and made mistakes but make a mistake repent and don't make the same mistake again.....In the case of the JWs it's whoever made the proclamations that something was going to happen on this date then the date comes to pass ok now it's this date oh wait no now it's this date.....foolish and seen through by all who can see. If the lea ...[text shortened]... s them something to write or say and it would be perfection because it came from God.
Manny
Manny
Originally posted by robbie carrobieRead this post a few times just for the lulz. Humble and awesome all at the same time; you do talk out of your ass mate.
We are humble enough to go to the people as fishers of men that is why we are so awesome, others were content to be keepers of the aquarium where are they now?
Originally posted by menace71if you were to look at Bible prophesy and try to piece it all together do you think you would make mistakes?
Your right they were Human and made mistakes but make a mistake repent and don't make the same mistake again.....In the case of the JWs it's whoever made the proclamations that something was going to happen on this date then the date comes to pass ok now it's this date oh wait no now it's this date.....foolish and seen through by all who can see. If the lea ...[text shortened]... s them something to write or say and it would be perfection because it came from God.
Manny
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOf course, people make mistakes. That is the point. The JWs dont accept that they are regular people. Do you accept that you are just are normal human being?
if you were to look at Bible prophesy and try to piece it all together do you think you would make mistakes?
The watchtower claims to be Gods chosen organisation. God is the father and Watchtower is the mother. They are guided by God.
So the fact that ALL the prophesies were incorrect means that God is not at all guiding the Watchtower.
Originally posted by Rajk999are you saying that God has not chosen a people for his name, please explain this verse, the apostle Peter to Christians who were not Jewish proselytes
Of course, people make mistakes. That is the point. The JWs dont accept that they are regular people. Do you accept that you are just are normal human being?
The watchtower claims to be Gods chosen organisation. God is the father and Watchtower is the mother. They are guided by God.
So the fact that ALL the prophesies were incorrect means that God is not at all guiding the Watchtower.
(1 Peter 2:9, 10) But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the one that called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. For you were once not a people, but are now God’s people; you were those who had not been shown mercy, but are now those who have been shown mercy.
Now let us ask ourselves who else is declaring abroad the excellencies of God? Could it be the seven day adventists? the Christadelphians ? the Plymouth brethren? the Roman catholic church? the protestant denominations? and by a process of elimination we have ruled out practically all of modern day Christendom.
Now you can accept the fact or cry about it, either way, you need to explain the verse.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieEasy to explain .. God has chosen, just not the Watchtower Organisation or the JWs. Proof: God has abandoned the WT in their attempt to predict the signs of the times. ALL were wrong.
are you saying that God has not chosen a people for his name, please explain this verse, the apostle Peter to Christians who were not Jewish proselytes
(1 Peter 2:9, 10) But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the one that called you out of ...[text shortened]... ndom.
Now you can accept the fact or cry about it, either way, you need to explain the verse.
Originally posted by menace71good luck with that, the people hear who have strong views are unable to engage in rational thought, at every turn they seek to reduce arguments proffered to irrelevancies about Jehovahs witnesses, look at their posting history, divesgeester is obsessed with Jehovahs witnesses, Jaywill cannot comment on a Biblical verse unless its to decry Jehovahs witnesses, same with wuzzianne. Rajk usually has good intentions but gets sucked into the melee, Caljust when confronted with incontrovertible facts ran away and R J Hinds is incapable of rational thought, just look at their posts, you start a thread with the intention of discussing a verse and its Jehovahs witnesses this and Jehovahs witnesses that, its amazing,
OK the Original Post is Jesus the Almighty God ? Let's honestly look at the scriptures and see right? Let's look at the original languages and words and the context of what the writer was saying
Manny
i could start a thread about Led Zepplin and Jimmy Pages assimilation of Aleister Crowleys work (Magic in theory and practice, which I have read) and it would be, yeah but in 1923 the watchtower said this, or in 1878 Charles Russel said that. Do you know what I mean, it simply gets tiresome after a while.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieGods chosen people are the Spiritual Jews. They live in all nations and come from all walks of life, and from all religions. They follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, because they law of love is written in their hearts, and their lifestyle reflects the love and charity which Christ said was essential for eternal life. They do not need to belong to any earthly man-made religion. God knows who they are and they know God. They were chosen from the foundation of the world.
sorry God has chosen whom? I didn't quite catch it, he has chosen who?
Originally posted by Rajk999yes but who are they you have not said and why haven't they been declaring abroad Gods excellencies near me? evah! are they camouflaged? invisible? in a commune some place? How do they declare abroad these excellencies? messages in bottles?
Gods chosen people are the Spiritual Jews. They live in all nations and come from all walks of life, and from all religions. They follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, because they law of love is written in their hearts, and their lifestyle reflects the love and charity which Christ said was essential for eternal life. They do not need to belong to any earth ...[text shortened]... on. God knows who they are and they know God. They were chosen from the foundation of the world.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe fact that you insist that there is some earthly name for the Spiritual Jews means you dont have a clue.
yes but who are they you have not said and why haven't they been declaring abroad Gods excellencies near me? evah! are they camouflaged? invisible? in a commune some place? How do they declare abroad these excellencies? messages in bottles?