Originally posted by galveston75The Christadelphians are another religious group that have departed form the faith passed on by the saints. Their beliefs can't be trusted anymore than the watchtower can.
Interesting quotes about the trinity:
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christadelphians
Originally posted by RJHindsI know your not, but you still believe in their trinity even though you have a slightly different version of it. So...you really don't see the paganism in it and that it all came from Babylons trinity?
You know that I am not Roman Catholic. So why bother with all this stuff aimed against the Roman Catholic Church? Not everything they teach has to be false.
You really don't have to respond as I know the answer I'll get.
By they way the WTC has nothing to do with me not believing it if you really need to know. I just know from my own studying of the Bible and with the simple searching one has to do to see it's not a bible teaching and where it came from.
Originally posted by galveston75Just because the pagan religions had something similiar doesn't mean that the Christian Trinity came from the pagans. God has always been a trinity from the beginning of creation. That is where the pagans got the idea. The only difference in the Christian Trinity is that the prophecy of the virgin giving birth to the Son of God made manifest in the flesh has come true.
I know your not, but you still believe in their trinity even though you have a slightly different version of it. So...you really don't see the paganism in it and that it all came from Babylons trinity?
You really don't have to respond as I know the answer I'll get.
By they way the WTC has nothing to do with me not believing it if you really need ...[text shortened]... the simple searching one has to do to see it's not a bible teaching and where it came from.
Originally posted by RJHindsWell not true by any means.
Just because the pagan religions had something similiar doesn't mean that the Christian Trinity came from the pagans. God has always been a trinity from the beginning of creation. That is where the pagans got the idea. The only difference in the Christian Trinity is that the prophecy of the virgin giving birth to the Son of God made manifest in the flesh has come true.
Again it is so clear it's beyond belief to me that anyone would believe in a teaching that was never mentioned in the Bible, never taught by any of God's people, is still not a teaching by the Jew's who were once God's people, was never taught by the Isrealites, has more then ample evidence showing it was a teaching that originated in Babylon by a society that came up with every teaching that God hated and even had that world power destroyed because of it's pagan life styles.
So yeah, I'd say it would qualify as a pagan teaching that to this day cannot be from the Bible.
And it would more then qualify as one of the false teachings that Jesus clearly warned his followers to watch out for that false teachers woiuld bring into his congregations.
http://www.truegospelofjesus.org/articles/trinity.html
http://vindication.xanga.com/670684219/item/
http://theproblemwith.xanga.com/702510982/item/
http://www.2001translation.com/Trinity.html
http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm
I know this is a waist of time posting these. It would seem that if one were truly looking to learn the real truths in the Bible and that might even make one finally see the falseness in something one believes in, it should happen. But then it sadly doesn't no matter the clear evidence that multiple referrances make.
"One cannot learn if one has their head full of their own opinions."
Originally posted by galveston75I do not believe what the pagans taught. I believe what is taught in the Holy Bible.
Well not true by any means.
Again it is so clear it's beyond belief to me that anyone would believe in a teaching that was never mentioned in the Bible, never taught by any of God's people, is still not a teaching by the Jew's who were once God's people, was never taught by the Isrealites, has more then ample evidence showing it was a teaching that or ...[text shortened]... eferrances make.
"One cannot learn if one has their head full of their own opinions."
From Genesis 1:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
There we have the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Triune God.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
There we have the second person of the Triune God communicating with the first person of the Triune God. So all three person of the Godhead are involved in the creation.
From Isaiah 6:
In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one cried to another and said:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts;
The whole earth is full of His glory!”
There Isaiah sees the living creatures called seraphim giving praise to the three persons of the Godhead by crying out "holy" for each of the three persons.
From Revelation 4:
The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying:
“Holy, holy, holy,
Lord God Almighty,
Who was and is and is to come!”
John also sees the living creatures giving praise to God by saying "holy" for each of the three persons of the Godhead. It is so clear.
From Matthew 28:
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
There the risen Christ claims all authority in ONE NAME of the three persons of the Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. It is all so clear.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Originally posted by RJHindsso all that searching without having a clue of what you're reading, and you still haven't found the trinity anywhere in the bible.
From Genesis 1:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... And [b]the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
There we have the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Triune God.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, ov ...[text shortened]... t is all so clear.[/b]
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy![/b]
if you're searching for the trinity, you'll have to search in the other pagan myths.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritI know what I am reading. But to get the truth through to numbnuts, like you, is almost impossible. It is clear to people of at least average intelligence, however. 😏
so all that searching without having a clue of what you're reading, and you still haven't found the trinity anywhere in the bible.
if you're searching for the trinity, you'll have to search in the other pagan myths.
Originally posted by RJHindsAbsolutly nothing here you've quoted says anything of a trinity. It's all in your mind and if your happy with that, so be it.
From Genesis 1:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... And [b]the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
There we have the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Triune God.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, ov ...[text shortened]... t is all so clear.[/b]
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy![/b]
Originally posted by galveston75John 1:1 as you already know. The word(The Logos) was with God and was God
"He's revealed that while He is one He has a triune nature about Himself."
Where exactly did he "reveal" this? Are there scriptures that say this? Jus one will do if it exist....
then about 1:13 it says this Word (Logos) became flesh and dwelt among us. So the Logos became flesh.
Manny
