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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou always sound mighty p****d off to me dude.
Is this the best that you can think of, Jehovahs witnesses dont take blood transfusions,
so what? what is it to you? we have no issue with it, why should you? If i were not too
happy i might resent this intrusion into my happy thread, as it stands there are no
issues, no fences facing us.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhenever you start a thread and don't want people to answer, just say so, and see what will happen.
Is this the best that you can think of, Jehovahs witnesses dont take blood transfusions,
so what? what is it to you? we have no issue with it, why should you? If i were not too
happy i might resent this intrusion into my happy thread, as it stands there are no
issues, no fences facing us.
I think that my posting was very relevant:
I wonder if they are as happy when they discover that they cannot have the blood transfusion needed to save their life.I don't think the happy people really know that they have to sacrifice their lives due to a principle brought upon them. You wrote 'happy', I didn't.
I wonder if they will be happy to meet their creator earlier than intended.
The blood transfusion is only one of many critics I have about Jehovas Witness. Not to any member JW, but to the organization as a whole. You are a member of JW, so this isn't personal toward you. You see that, don't you?
As you ask me a question: "We have no issue with it, why should you?" So I answer: You don't know that. I even wonder what you would chose given that you are going to die without a blood transfusion. Would you chose life over principles? I think, because you are a human as anyone else, that you'd chose life.
So my thought, that the poor people of the pictures you gave us to see would be happy if their lies could be saved, but because some elder far away from them, of whom they don't even know, have decided that it's better for you to die, than to have a life saving blood transfusion, is very relevant.
Now, now, don't get angry with me for having an opinion that differs from yours.
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Originally posted by FabianFnasInterestingly the Bible does not talk about being "happy" at all. God never says "I will make you happy" or that we are to promote "happiness" per se.
Whenever you start a thread and don't want people to answer, just say so, and see what will happen.
I think that my posting was very relevant:I wonder if they are as happy when they discover that they cannot have the blood transfusion needed to save their life.I
I wonder if they will be happy to meet their creator earlier than intended.
Now, now, don't get angry with me for having an opinion that differs from yours.
What the JW organisation does (very poorly) with the images presented in this thread and with those fictional childrens storybook type images presented in the Watchtower publications, is basic marketing. It looks hollow because it is hollow.
22 Jan 12
Originally posted by divegeestersigh it may help if you blew the dust from its covers and opened it up once in a
Interestingly the Bible does not talk about being "happy" at all. God never says "I will make you happy" or that we are to promote "happiness" per se.
What the JW organisation does (very poorly) with the images presented in this thread and with those fictional childrens storybook type images presented in the Watchtower publications, is basic marketing. It looks hollow because it is hollow.
while,
(Matthew 5:3-12) “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the
kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. “Happy are those who mourn, since they
will be comforted. “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the
earth. “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be
filled. “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy. “Happy are the
pure in heart, since they will see God. “Happy are the peaceable, since they will be
called ‘sons of God.’ “Happy are those who have been persecuted for
righteousness’ sake, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. “Happy are
you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of
wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and leap for joy, since your reward is
great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.
how you could have failed to discern the most famous words of Jesus Christ i cannot
say, perhaps if you attended some meetings of Jehovahs witnesses as an interested
person instead of pretending that you know what is written in the Bible, instead of
pretending that you know anything about Jehovah's witnesses you might do better
or you could continue oblivious to anything other than your own self certified
opinions.
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Originally posted by FabianFnasno, if you want to start a thread about blood transfusions you are free to do so, but
Whenever you start a thread and don't want people to answer, just say so, and see what will happen.
I think that my posting was very relevant:I wonder if they are as happy when they discover that they cannot have the blood transfusion needed to save their life.I
I wonder if they will be happy to meet their creator earlier than intended.
Now, now, don't get angry with me for having an opinion that differs from yours.
you have or have attempted to hijack our happy thread, with an issue than does
not even affect you. We are Happy because
“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens
belongs to them.
“Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted.
“Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.
“Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled.
“Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy.
“Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God.
“Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called ‘sons of God.’
“Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the
kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say
every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and leap for joy,
since your reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the
prophets prior to you.
Soooo many good reasons to be happy.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Blessed" in every translation I've ever read, but then we do read different ones, don't we.
sigh it may help if you blew the dust from its covers and opened it up once in a
while,
(Matthew 5:3-12) “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the
kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. “Happy are those who mourn, since they
will be comforted. “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the
earth. “H er
or you could continue oblivious to anything other than your own self certified
opinions.
But who cares - if you're happy.... Don't worry be happy.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy on earth would I want to come to one of your meetings, you worship a completely different God to me and have allowed yourself to become almost inextricably conjoined to a cultish earthbound corporate organisation.
sigh it may help if you blew the dust from its covers and opened it up once in a
while,
(Matthew 5:3-12) “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the
kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. “Happy are those who mourn, since they
will be comforted. “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the
earth. “H ...[text shortened]... er
or you could continue oblivious to anything other than your own self certified
opinions.
Thanks anyway. Be happy.
22 Jan 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou call it hijacking, I don't. I debate as everyone else do on the RHP all forums. If you don't want anyone to answer your thread, then say so in the first posting, and then we'll se what happens. Hijacking, it is not.
no, if you want to start a thread about blood transfusions you are free to do so, but
you have or have attempted to hijack our happy thread, with an issue than does
not even affect you. We are Happy because
“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens
belongs to them.
“Happy are those who mourn, sin ...[text shortened]... in that way they persecuted the
prophets prior to you.
Soooo many good reasons to be happy.
I have another proverbs that proves that I am right:
"Happy are those who gets a blood transfusion when they need one."
or how about
"Happy are those parents who can save their children with a blood transfusion, so they don't have to weep in an unneccesary funeral."
We are all happy that we can be happy. Just another reason.
22 Jan 12
Originally posted by FabianFnasSorry, I didn't know I couldn't comment here?
Tanks galve to enter the discussion. But I think robbie is doing all find himself.
You say there are two reasons why JWers deny blood transfusions:
(1) It is dangerous.
(2) God doesn't like it.
There is no problem whatsoever in modern healthcare with a blood transfusion. To deny blood transfusion is much more dangerous.
You say that god doesn't ...[text shortened]... at the god's wish hasn't altered since science gave us the possibility to save lives?
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Originally posted by divegeesterMatthew 5:3-12
"Blessed" in every translation I've ever read, but then we do read different ones, don't we.
But who cares - if you're happy.... Don't worry be happy.
Good News Translation (GNT)
True Happiness()
3
Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor;
the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!
4 Happy are those who mourn;
God will comfort them!
5 Happy are those who are humble;
they will receive what God has promised!
6 Happy are those whose greatest desire is to do what God requires;
God will satisfy them fully!
7 Happy are those who are merciful to others;
God will be merciful to them!
8 Happy are the pure in heart;
they will see God!
9 Happy are those who work for peace;
God will call them his children!
10 Happy are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires;
the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!
11 Happy are you when people insult you and persecute you and tell all kinds of evil lies against you because you are my followers.
12 Be happy and glad, for a great reward is kept for you in heaven. This is how the prophets who lived before you were persecuted.
I like verse 10 & 11 a whole bunch!!!!
Anyway I'm finding quite a few translations that use the word "Happy". Do you need me to post those too?
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Originally posted by galveston75Ohs noes not the Good News translation...
Matthew 5:3-12
Good News Translation (GNT)
True Happiness()
3
Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor;
the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!
4 Happy are those who mourn;
God will comfort them!
5 Happy are those who are humble;
they will receive what God has promised!
6 Happy are those whose ...[text shortened]... finding quite a few translations that use the word "Happy". Do you need me to post those too?
Is that the Bible where your oganisation get's the inspiration for their pictorial depictions for Watchtower?
Come on!