14 Apr 17
Originally posted by josephwWell given that you believe that I believe a lie, what was the point of your remark above suggesting I imagine something I don't believe, and, according to you, will never believe?
To paraphrase Hebrews, once one has known the the truth and then turns away to believe a lie it is impossible for them to believe the truth again.
Also, do you actually believe what you said above? You believe that God will play back all the words I have ever said? Why? What purpose do you believe this activity would serve? What purpose would me imagining it serve?
14 Apr 17
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Originally posted by josephwYou realize the bible outright says everything in the OP, right? Nothing I've said is made up.
Can you imagine what a shock it will be when all those who rejected Christ appear before God after death, when every idle word they said is played back in their own ears?
So is God going to be pissed at biblical accuracy?
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by vivifyIt just goes to show that nobody is perfect and God uses that.
Eve came from Adam's rib; you can't possibly lack genetic diversity from your spouse any more than that. That's pretty much asexually producing your own wife.
Adam & Eve had children who had children by their siblings.
Fast forward to after the Flood, Noah and his three sons were the only remaining humans (along with their wives). This means that thei ...[text shortened]... th Joseph as his legal father.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_in_the_Bible
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by josephwThe human ancestors that are slimes, or worms, or apes, or some other creatures are the imaginary types.
Can you imagine what a shock it will be when all those who rejected Christ appear before God after death, when every idle word they said is played back in their own ears?
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by EladarWhat about "non-Christian" beliefs would you like to know? Since non-Christians here tend to have no spiritual "beliefs", maybe you can help us out on what to discuss.
Such deep and intellectual discussion around here.
It amazes me how nonchristians want to talk about christian topics. Well, ok, belittle, but have no actual topics that concern their own beliefs.
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by divegeesterBump for vivfy.
How many types of early homosapiens were there? How many initial homosapien individuals? How do you think they procreated and with whom?
The concept of incest is only negative because generally and in the contemporary context, the results of incestuous relations are frequently negative. However if the results were positive then perhaps incest would be a good idea.
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by vivifyI think you made this up.
You realize the bible outright says everything in the OP, right? Nothing I've said is made up.
So is God going to be pissed at biblical accuracy?
Ham, one of Noah's sons, is implied by the bible to have had sex with his father while his father was drunk.
What the Bible actually says.
Now Noah started off as a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. When he drank of the wine, he became intoxicated, and he uncovered himself inside his tent. Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness, and he told his two brothers outside. So Shem and Japheth took a garment and put it upon both their shoulders and walked in backward. Thus they covered their father’s nakedness while their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father’s nakedness. When Noah woke up from his wine and learned what his youngest son had done to him, he said: “Cursed be Canaan. Let him become the lowest slave to his brothers. - Gen 9:20-27
Please tell us how it is that you managed to extract from the text that Ham had sex with his father while he was drunk.
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by vivifyHam, one of Noah's sons, is implied by the bible to have had sex with his father while his father was drunk.
Don't take me so literally. Obviously, "asexual" isn't the bible.
I believe this one is at least in part speculation.
As for cousins getting married, that isn't really incest. I know of at least two cousin marriages in my own family tree (two brothers married their cousins who were sisters.)
14 Apr 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadMarrying your 1st cousin is not illegal; at least not in the U.K. as far as I'm aware.
[b]Ham, one of Noah's sons, is implied by the bible to have had sex with his father while his father was drunk.
I believe this one is at least in part speculation.
As for cousins getting married, that isn't really incest. I know of at least two cousin marriages in my own family tree (two brothers married their cousins who were sisters.)[/b]
14 Apr 17
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Originally posted by twhiteheadI said this part is implied, based on Noah's reaction of cursing Ham's son (a common practice in the bible, punishing the child of someone who wronged or angered you; even God has done it).
[b]Ham, one of Noah's sons, is implied by the bible to have had sex with his father while his father was drunk.
I believe this one is at least in part speculation.
As for cousins getting married, that isn't really incest. I know of at least two cousin marriages in my own family tree (two brothers married their cousins who were sisters.)[/b]