Originally posted by Jay PeateaLying is always a bad thing.
To lie is not necessarily a bad thing it depend on the situation & intention.
From Buddhism Plain & Simple by Steve Hagen Page 58
If you were to attempt strictly to follow a moral rule, before long you'd be in real confusion because you would come up against a variety of contradictions and paradoxes. Real moral responsibility lies in being awake i ...[text shortened]... means that to be moral you must observe the actual situation as well as your own cast of mind.
You should always tell the true. Telling the truth hurt YES, but it will set you free. And if you have to tell the truth to turn in your family member for a murder it is always good to tell the truth that you might know where that person could be hiding. And still God will love you for that and he can judge you family member.
Originally posted by RBHILLSo are you say that you would turn in the family of jews to the gestapo ?
Lying is always a bad thing.
You should always tell the true. Telling the truth hurt YES, but it will set you free. And if you have to tell the truth to turn in your family member for a murder it is always good to tell the truth that you might know where that person could be hiding. And still God will love you for that and he can judge you family member.
Q: What is your definition of a liar? I can see why it would be wrong to tell a falsehood that hurts someone, but what's wrong with telling little half-truths that don't hurt anyone? — Mrs. S.W.R.
A: Dear Mrs. S.W.R.,
A liar is simply someone who tells a lie—and a lie is any statement that isn't true. A lie, in ot her words, is a deliberate attempt to deceive, and if that is someone's goal, then that person is a liar.
Why is it wrong to tell a lie, even if it doesn't seem to hurt anyone? One reason—which you should take very seriously—is because God commands us to tell the truth. One of the Ten Commandments states, "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor" (Exodus 20:16). The Bible also says, "each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor" (Ephesians 4:25).
But another reason is because a lie always—without exception—hurts someone. How do you know what impact your words might have on someone else? The answer is, you don't. Your example also hurts others; do you honestly want your children (for instance) to grow up thinking it doesn't matter whether or not they tell the truth?
But most of all, a lie always hurts the person who tells it. It takes the moral edge off you, making you less concerned about God's truth and His will for your life. In addition, others will eventually realize that you can't be trusted.
Don't compromise on the truth. Instead, commit your life to Christ, and make it your goal to serve Him in everything—including your speech.
Q: How can you trust someone who's lied to you repeatedly, and then keeps on doing it? I've lost count of the times my husband has left me for someone else, and then I'll take him back because he promises it will never happen again—but it always does. Why do I keep doing this? — Mrs. L.K.
A: Dear Mrs. L.K.,
Only you can answer that question, of course. Perhaps you still have hope that your husband will change; perhaps you fear being alone even more than you fear being hurt yet again. Down inside, you may even feel that you aren't worthy of having a happy marriage (although that isn't true).
But whatever the reason, the most important thing I can say is that God doesn't want your marriage to be this way. God gave marriage to us, and He meant for it to be a source of joy, not heartache. The Bible says, "He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the Lord" (Proverbs 18:22).
This is why I urge you to commit your marriage—and your whole life—to Jesus Christ and ask Him to help you rebuild your marriage. God loves you, and He is even more concerned about your marriage than you are. Yes, your husband is responsible for breaking his marriage vows; what he has done is absolutely wrong in God's eyes. But have you done everything you possibly could to make your marriage happy and fulfilling?
Perhaps the place to begin is with your words. Words of love and encouragement can do much to bring healing; no one likes a home that is constantly upset by bickering and arguing. The Bible says, "Words from a wise man's (or woman's) mouth are gracious" (Ecclesiastes 10:12). May God bless and encourage you.
Originally posted by Jay PeateaThe question is silly. He said lying was bad, so you imply he would have to volunteer to turn them in.
So are you say that you would turn in the family of jews to the gestapo ?
Further, lying is bad, but murder is worse. So if one had to lie to protect someone from death, it does not make lying good. If I kill someone to stop them from harming my family does not make killing good.
Originally posted by ColettiMy impression from RHB post's was that he ment all lying was bad regardless of reason. In my original post, the point that I am making is that not all lying is bad. The jews hiding in the house is one example where lying is not bad, it is good.
The question is silly. He said lying was bad, so you imply he would have to volunteer to turn them in.
Further, lying is bad, but murder is worse. So if one had to lie to protect someone from death, it does not make lying good. If I k ...[text shortened]... ne to stop them from harming my family does not make killing good.
Your example of "saving your family by killing another person" is at first glance a close comparsion. However it cannot really be compared because the act of killing involves harming another person. Where as the act of lying in the "jews in the house" case has no adverse effects on anybody.
Originally posted by Jay PeateaIt is bad. That's my point. Saying murder is worse does not make lying good. The badness of lying is outweighed by the goodness of saving a life. No matter the circumstances, lying is still bad.
My impression from RHB post's was that he ment all lying was bad regardless of reason. In my original post, the point that I am making is that not all lying is bad. The jews hiding in the house is one example where lying is not bad, it is good.
Your example of "saving your family by killing another person" is at first glance a close comparsion. Howe ...[text shortened]... . Where as the act of lying in the "jews in the house" case has no adverse effects on anybody.
Originally posted by RBHILLCome on RBH we are all waiting for you to answer!
First of you know my answer.
yes or no
or perhaps you would want us to draw too our own conclusions ?
lets see, you believe that telling the truth is the right thing to do, you believe that a white lie is the worst sort of lie. Hmmmmmmm
Come on admit it, you would hand them over to the gestapo wouldn't you ?
Originally posted by Jay PeateaWhy bagger him? Someone might think you are a lawyer! 😲
Come on RBH we are all waiting for you to answer!
yes or no
or perhaps you would want us to draw too our own conclusions ?
lets see, you believe that telling the truth is the right thing to do, you believe that a white lie is the worst sort of lie. Hmmmmmmm
Come on admit it, you would hand them over to the gestapo wouldn't you ?