Jesus' Other Teachings?

@sonship said
But I'd have better communication trying to have a Bible study sitting in a shallow river in the Amazon River with a school of pirhanha fish than reason with Rajk999.

@rajk999 said
You also gave up listening to Jesus Christ way before that, because that is your modus operandi. When someone says stuff and speaks the truth, as Jesus did, you ignore it.

@FMF


That's right. To those insterested in good teaching this is a good place for some Bible study.

It is very practical for believers to have some study of the Bible.

Atheists like you are diffferent. "Tell me what to do and I'll go do it. God is not needed." So you say.

The law of Moses has ample demonstration that you don't have a nature which
can life a human life as God designed you to live one.

So wise believers who get the point of the Bible study it to see how Christ the Perfect Man can being us into Himself to live through Him for the purpose of God.

So we really study passages like this:

"I am the vine, and My Father is teh husbandman. . . You are already made clean by the word which I hasve spoken to you. . . Abide in Me and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me . . . I am the vine; you are the branches. He who asbidfes in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing."

These sayings require study.
They require that we learn from those with experience of Christ to help us.
They require proving by testing.
They require deepened and deepening explaration in experience and study in relation to the rest of the Bible.

And they call for announcing the good teaching to others who are seeking reality, and some discussion with others who are opened enough listen and consider. Perhaps they too want to find out about the living Savior Jesus.

@sonship said
That's right. To those insterested in good teaching this is a good place for some Bible study.
It is very practical for believers to have some study of the Bible.

Well he's a more clear-sighted Christian who promotes the practical teaching of Jesus

@sonship said


The Sermon on the Mount is first of all things Jesus desribing how He Himself had lived for thirty years up to the time of His public ministry. He is teaching how to live? Yes. But first He is describing not philosophy but a autobiographical sketch of His own daily walk all His life.

IN the (preactical} teachings so called, like those on the Sermon of the Mount, Jesus hightened the demand on morality to be so high it requires a change in nature.

"You have hear that it was said to the ancients, "You shall mot murder, and whoever murders shall be liable to the judgment."

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be liable to the judgment." [ Intensely inward down to the most subjective motive of the heart ]

And whoever says to his brother, Raca, shall be liable to the judgment of the Sanhedrin; [ The innermost motive is to be brought to judgment by a court of extraordinary perception ].

"and whoever says, Moreh, shall be liable to the Gehenna of fire." [ your loose tongue of anger revealing contempt in your heart, name calling, debasing, insulting ]

The demand of living in the kingdom of the heavens is a demand not on just outward appearance but underlying innermost motive of the heart. Your NATURE needs to be changed by God.

(Most of this so called “bible study” will be either riddled with error and/or lifted from the writings of a teacher in sonship’s church)

The (practical) teaching in Matthew is an exposure that sinful man requires a change of nature in the inward being. The demand is so high it is the highest level of morality in existence on the earth.

Jesus was firstly speaking of Himself, for He lived by and through the life of the Father.

Here again He penetrates down to the innwemost motive of the heart not just the outward behavior.

"You have heard that it was said, "You shall not commit adultery." But I say to you that everyone who looks after a woman in order to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matt. 5:27,28)

All typical men should instantly know they are disqualified. They commit adultery in the inner imagination all the time. The world entertainment and money making busisness sees to it that male lust can be stirred up a thousand times.

The purity of heart demanded by this constitution of God's kingdom exposes the need for a change in nature.

"Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree corrupt and its fruit corrupt; for by the fruit the tree is known.

Offspring of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." (Matt. 12:33,34)

The KIng - Jesus Christ - the King of the kingdom of the heavens exposes the fallen nature of man. These practical teachings establish the ground work for latter to see how the nature can be changed through the new birth in the Gospel of John.

You MUST be born again to be born with a new nature.
That is a new nature that can overcome and swallow up the fallen nature inherited by all the descendents of Adam.

Matthew is the first gospel we come to by God's sovereignty in the arrangement of the four gospels.

It is the practical description of Jesus's NATURE. This is how He Himself lived as reflected in His Sermon on the Mount. He taught as one having authority. He didn't sound like the religious teachers saying "Do what I say do. Don't do what I do."

At the end of His discourse, this:

"And when Jesus finished these words, the crowds were astounded at His teaching. For He taught them as One having authority and not like their scribes." (Matt. 7:28,29)

They knew "These is the way this man LIVES. This is encredible. No one ever spoke like this. No one ever came to us showing us from experience the way to live unto God and for God."

He exposed that the nature had to be right.
And He Himself had this God-man nature.
We need to have it too or we by no means can enter into "the kingdom of the heavens."

The DEMAND for the kingdom is taught mostly in Matthew.
The SUPPLY to meet the demand is expounded in the Gospel showing Christ, this Perfect One, can come INTO us to be born within us to supply a new nature.

"In Him was [divine] life, and the life was the light of men," (John 1:4)

The DEMAND of the kingdom living requires the new birth that men may be granted authority to become children of God. That is children inheriting the nature of their Father from a new birth.

Again, John's Gospel of SUPPLY and inner new life:

"But as many as received Him, to them He gave the authority to become children of God, to those who believe into His name,

Who were BEGOTTEN . . . not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John 1:12,13)

Matthew's kingdom of the heavens living requires John's new birth to be born - begotten of a divine Father with a new divine life implanted into the innermost spiritual being of human beings.

WE nmust believe INTO the living and available Son of God, recieving Him and His very life INTO our being. So Matthew's "practical" Sermon and John's new birth for a change of nature work together in the New Testament.

@sonship said

Well he's a more clear-sighted Christian who promotes the practical teaching of Jesus

For the atheist "practical" only means what you can do without regard to the existence, personality, power, and presence of God.

The Sermon on the Mount is first of all things Jesus desribing how He Himself had lived for thirty years up to the time of His publi ...[text shortened]... ence we can exceed the behavior of the scribes and Pharisees because we're deeop down "good people."