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Jesus says do not get married

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@eladar said
Yep that is the case too.
You poor bastards.

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3 alerts already! You magnificent bastard.

Edit: those alerts appear to be auto-magical.

Edit2: now you have 6.

Edit3: now you have 12, LOL.

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@sonship said
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Do not get married if you have a limited sex drive. The only reason to get married is to escape sexual immorality.


Marriage will not guarantee that. History and weekly news should tell us that.

To have your own dedicated spouse for sexual enjoyment is an incentive to find one.
If you hold it to be the ONLY reason you married, you probably will ...[text shortened]... nhappy one.

But you decided Jesus says do not get married is better at grabbing attention?
So you disagree with Jesus and Paul.

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@Eladar

"Jesus says do not get married" I agree, is a rather misrepresentative, shallow, attention grabbing sentence.

I think you do too.

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@sonship

Actually I think it is deep. Not questioning societal pressures to get married is shallow.

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@eladar said
What does that say about the importance of having children? The instruction is not simply for clergy.
People who do marry are supposed to be fruitful and multiply, right. However, in our tradition we do not believe in things like "birth control is a sin" or anything. Some people do, but it is not canonical law or anything -- and it is also true that condoms did exist in the era where this was discussed.

I honestly think it is a situation where there are very few exceptions for married couples that should not have children.

But it is also true that there is no burden for a celibate person to enter into a monastery or some such because it should also be understood that the monastic status in life is not simply a vow of chastity.

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@divegeester said
Can you explain how religious celibacy is a “huge huge huge net gain for the community” please?
Bump for Philokalia.

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@philokalia said
People who do marry are supposed to be fruitful and multiply, right. However, in our tradition we do not believe in things like "birth control is a sin" or anything. Some people do, but it is not canonical law or anything -- and it is also true that condoms did exist in the era where this was discussed.

I honestly think it is a situation where there are very few ...[text shortened]... cause it should also be understood that the monastic status in life is not simply a vow of chastity.
Can you explain how religious celibacy is a “huge huge huge net gain for the community” please?

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@eladar said
Whatever you say. You obviously think very little of what Jesus says.
I submit that it is you who thinks "very little of what Jesus says."

You're just another Christian hypocrite.

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@rajk999 said
The community gets millions in damages from law suits against sick perverted Catholic priests.
As well as the associated guilt and trauma. What a community benefit.

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@Philokalia

You dod not really amswer my question. It had nothing to do with having children. It had to do with Jesus telling all people not to get married if they can do without sex.

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@suzianne said
I submit that it is you who thinks "very little of what Jesus says."

You're just another Christian hypocrite.
You are a child of Satan so how can you hope but see such a lie. Maybe one day God will open your eyes but probably not.

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@eladar said
You are a child of Satan so how can you hope but see such a lie. Maybe one day God will open your eyes but probably not.
I suspect, given his reluctance to reply to me, that philokalia involuntarily goes without sex and compensates by spinning up some rhetoric about how his celibacy is somehow “benefiting his community as a whole”

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@divegeester

I saw nothing like that in his post. He simply sees priests as higher level people.

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@eladar said
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You dod not really amswer my question. It had nothing to do with having children. It had to do with Jesus telling all people not to get married if they can do without sex.
Alright, so the question would be -- what does it say about having children if some people are told to not marry?

Sorry, I am sometimes slow on the uptake on these things, lol.

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