05 Mar 14
I'm a bit ashamed because it's true the average JW can turn the average nominal Christian into a theological pretzel (I got that from somewhere else can't remember where) because the JW's know their stuff pretty well but the average Christian hardly cracks open their bible yet alone studies the Koinonia Greek in which the New Testament was written in
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05 Mar 14
Originally posted by menace71Correction; they appear to know the stuff they are taught very well.
I'm a bit ashamed because it's true the average JW can turn the average nominal Christian into a theological pretzel (I got that from somewhere else can't remember where) because the JW's know their stuff pretty well but the average Christian hardly cracks open their bible yet alone studies the Koinonia Greek in which the New Testament was written in
Manny
Just because robbie carrobie throws out Greek quotes and claims to have a better understanding of scripture, doesn't mean a) he does, or b) that he (or actually his leadership who provide the thoughts for him to believe) is being spoken to by the Lord.
Remember:
JWs deny the divinity of Christ, refuse to accept that name of Jesus is (currently) above all names and believe him to be an angel.
JWs believe they have 2 saviors (Jesus and Jehovah), that Jesus is Mighty God but still an angel and therefore can't be worshiped (this is to align their erroneous doctrine with Isaiah 9)
JW don't believe in that Christ was physically resurrected (as I understand it - apologies if I'm wrong) and therefore cannot be interceding for mankind.
Not to mention the dangerous doctrines on blood transfusions and the horrendous treatment of people (including family members) wishing to leave their religion.
In short all that learning = all that error.
05 Mar 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobienope. I feel redundant in this conversation. As was discussed in another thread. There was the origional bible, then the protestant bible, then others. What part of the word is not God's word. If you recieve the Word into your heart, you recieve God too.
it is the edited version of the protestant bible????
The New world translation is based upon generally two base texts, The Greek text is based upon The New Testament in the Original Greek, by Westcott and Hort and the Hebrew portion upon the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, by Elliger and Rudolph, Deutsche Bibelstiftung, Stuttgart, 1977, H.S.
It ...[text shortened]... ss it as an uninformed and prejudiced assertion without even the slightest semblance of reality?
Originally posted by PudgenikNo there was the original manuscripts which to translators were few and far between, and then there was more manuscripts and now were are in better position than ever before to compare papyri, codices and manuscripts than at any time in history. There is no such thing as a protestant Bible, there is only Greek and Hebrew texts from which translations are made. The folly of the protestant was to fail to grasp the significance of the Hebrew text and how it related to the Greek, that is why even to this day they are embroiled in the Greek portion and know next to nothing about the Hebrew portion other than that which substantiates their dogma. They even hand out half Bibles, New testaments only to school children.
nope. I feel redundant in this conversation. As was discussed in another thread. There was the origional bible, then the protestant bible, then others. What part of the word is not God's word. If you recieve the Word into your heart, you recieve God too.
This type of esoteric experience of receiving Jesus into your heart is nothing more than a pure emotionalism, 'this means everlasting life their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and of the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ' John 17:3, meaning no amount of emotionalism can make up for personal Bible study and research. Taking in knowledge of God and Christ leads to everlasting life.
06 Mar 14
Originally posted by PudgenikWhich "Word" you going to believe?
nope. I feel redundant in this conversation. As was discussed in another thread. There was the origional bible, then the protestant bible, then others. What part of the word is not God's word. If you recieve the Word into your heart, you recieve God too.
It is really naïve of you to talk about "the original bible" and "the protestant bible".
Could you define either?
07 Mar 14
Originally posted by divegeesterSure they know their stuff very well but what my point is the average Christian can't argue or defend scripture and if a JW comes along they don't know the difference other than what their pastor states
Correction; they appear to know the stuff they are taught very well.
Just because robbie carrobie throws out Greek quotes and claims to have a better understanding of scripture, doesn't mean a) he does, or b) that he (or actually his leadership who provide the thoughts for him to believe) is being spoken to by the Lord.
Remember:
JWs den ...[text shortened]... family members) wishing to leave their religion.
In short all that learning = all that error.
Manny
really, wow, it must of been from a phase when i was ignoring everyone! including myself! sign up Manfred my son and if you can think of a name, let it be known, Robbie Ramjet and his eagles is not going to cut it in the hurly burly of the clan forums me thinks!
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07 Mar 14
Originally posted by divegeesterWord. 🙂
Correction; they appear to know the stuff they are taught very well.
Just because robbie carrobie throws out Greek quotes and claims to have a better understanding of scripture, doesn't mean a) he does, or b) that he (or actually his leadership who provide the thoughts for him to believe) is being spoken to by the Lord.
Remember:
JWs den ...[text shortened]... family members) wishing to leave their religion.
In short all that learning = all that error.
07 Mar 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe burned out husk of a once-proud clan.
really, wow, it must of been from a phase when i was ignoring everyone! including myself! sign up Manfred my son and if you can think of a name, let it be known, Robbie Ramjet and his eagles is not going to cut it in the hurly burly of the clan forums me thinks!
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Good job, Charlie.
07 Mar 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"That's what the False Prophet said."
No there was the original manuscripts which to translators were few and far between, and then there was more manuscripts and now were are in better position than ever before to compare papyri, codices and manuscripts than at any time in history. There is no such thing as a protestant Bible, there is only Greek and Hebrew texts from which translation ...[text shortened]... sonal Bible study and research. Taking in knowledge of God and Christ leads to everlasting life.
07 Mar 14
Originally posted by divegeesterAgain my friend sometimes we don't answer because it has been discussed over and over and sometimes we do get tired of repeating those answers. Or it could be we've missed it or we know no matter how we explain even by scriptures it will do no good. Fair enough?
LOL.
08 Mar 14
Originally posted by RBHILLi would have to agree with you, others being
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