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JWs and blood transfusions

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Originally posted by galveston75
Could anyone here tell dive dude I'm abviously not going to answer any of his post no matter how many times he trys over and over and over? He seems to think it's funny or entertaining or shows off his brilliant personality but it really does nothing but show his lack of maturity, knowledge, spirituality or just plain ole commen sense.
He reminds me of ...[text shortened]... tion and thinking that saying "mama, mama, mama, mama over and over will actually work. Lol.....
Ignoring on topic questions in a debating forum is poor etiquette galveston75 and does nothing to build credibility for either you or your argument.

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Originally posted by galveston75
"Aided by God’s spirit, the apostles and older men concluded that obligatory circumcision ended with the Law. Still, certain divine requirements remained for Christians. In a letter to the congregations, the governing body wrote: “The holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstain ...[text shortened]... king it in for “medical” reasons. They maintained that stand even if it put their life at risk."
The comand is to not eat / injest blood it always go back to not eating ( or drinking) which is injesting blood and this for the various reasons you are referencing... However injesting / eating / drinking is not the same as blood transfusion. First of all the path is totally different one through the veins the other through the digestive system..... Factually and scientifically different. The prohibition was against eating blood.

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You can try to be clever and say transfusion is the same as eating / injesting blood but it's not the same at all.

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PS : I think eating or drinking blood sounds disgusting 🙂


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Originally posted by menace71
The comand is to not eat / injest blood it always go back to not eating ( or drinking) which is injesting blood and this for the various reasons you are referencing... However injesting / eating / drinking is not the same as blood transfusion. First of all the path is totally different one through the veins the other through the digestive system..... Factually and scientifically different. The prohibition was against eating blood.

Manny
Completely the same Manny and to is preserve the life of one taking it in to their bodies. The transfusion is more direct.

Are you not willing to answer my question about if your starving child was going to die today within the hour unless they drank blood? What would you do knowing God's command?

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Could someone tell dive dude I don't care what he thinks about anything???

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Originally posted by menace71
PS : I think eating or drinking blood sounds disgusting 🙂


Manny
You should try some black pudding in a traditional full English!

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
You should try some black pudding in a traditional full English!
LOL I'll pass on that ......Thanks anyway


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Originally posted by galveston75
Completely the same Manny and to is preserve the life of one taking it in to their bodies. The transfusion is more direct.

Are you not willing to answer my question about if your starving child was going to die today within the hour unless they drank blood? What would you do knowing God's command?
No your absolutely wrong .....how is eating blood life preserving ? Now transfusion I can see how that could potentially be life preserving.....but your wrong and case in point if ones gets in a horrible automobile accident and happens to lose a lot of blood the doctors are not going to feed / make the one ingest the blood because it would not do any good that way they would give the one a transfusion intravenously meaning through the veins not through the mouth and stomach

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Originally posted by galveston75
Completely the same Manny and to is preserve the life of one taking it in to their bodies. The transfusion is more direct.

Are you not willing to answer my question about if your starving child was going to die today within the hour unless they drank blood? What would you do knowing God's command?
I would absolutely give the child the blood to drink if it meant it would save the child's life but this is silly and is a hypothetical situation that has no bearing in reality and I thankfully will never have to give a child blood to drink to save their life ......Jesus said is it ever lawful to do evil ? letting a child die when I have the remedy in my hand ? Just the same when David and his men where hungry and they ate the holy consecrated bread which technically speaking was not lawful for them to eat but they ate it !! The point being the laws were made for man and not man for the laws ....God deems ones life more important than a piece of bread !!! Jesus said 5 Sparrows are sold for a penny yet if one falls He knows and is aware

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Originally posted by galveston75
Could someone tell dive dude I don't care what he thinks about anything???
Why would anyone need to "tell" divegeester? Everyone and anyone reading this thread ~ including divegeester ~ can read and see for themselves how you are conducting yourself.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Could someone tell dive dude I don't care what he thinks about anything???
If you don't care ( not very righteous or Christ like ) what Dive dude thinks then why should he care for what you think ? There has to be some give and take or you lose all credibility and why then would one want to follow you or your God ? ( I know we all fall short )

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Originally posted by galveston75
The same command was given about blood was it not?
Do you agree that Dr Américo Valério's comments in 1961 about blood ~ as quoted in the "Watchtower" magazine ~ sound a bit like they are drawing from non-Christian mysticism and therefore come across rather like pagan superstitions?

And yet your religious organisation saw fit to quote them in one of its publications.

Do you think such outrageous beliefs as Dr Valério's are helpful or unhelpful to you now as you struggle to argue your organisation's corner?

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Originally posted by menace71
I would absolutely give the child the blood to drink if it meant it would save the child's life but this is silly and is a hypothetical situation that has no bearing in reality and I thankfully will never have to give a child blood to drink to save their life ......Jesus said is it ever lawful to do evil ? letting a child die when I have the remedy in my h ...[text shortened]... !!! Jesus said 5 Sparrows are sold for a penny yet if one falls He knows and is aware

Manny
Ok That's all I needed to know. You make the decision who lives as apposed to God's law that says not to partake of blood even as food?

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Originally posted by menace71
If you don't care ( not very righteous or Christ like ) what Dive dude thinks then why should he care for what you think ? There has to be some give and take or you lose all credibility and why then would one want to follow you or your God ? ( I know we all fall short )

Manny
You know dive dude is about as far from a christian as you can get. He has no desire to learn and is only here to condemn pretty much everyone here as well as any encouragement one can state here. Not once has he been kind or gentle or concerned about any one.
I no longer want to be in any conversation with him at all as the Bible says to completely disassociate any comminication with an anti christ person ....

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