20 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75I am saying that someone could take the statement from Jesus about "blood is drink indeed" and claim that we must drink blood in remembrance of Him, just as you claim we must abstain from blood transfusions because the apostle James reccommended that they tell the new Gentile Christians to abstain from blood and anything sacrificed to idols. Both conclusions are completely missing the point being made.
(Acts 10:9-16 NKJV)
Let's also not forget what Jesus said about blood:
For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
So are you saying because Jesus said this we can now eat blood and that God's commands on blood are no loger valid? I hope not as that is not what Jesus was saying at all.
Now can you answer my question on sa ...[text shortened]... ng your childs life with letting them eat blood by mouth if it meant their life was to be saved?
20 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75I am trying to point out that God never made a law against blood transfusions in the first place. Man did not have a need to know about blood transfusions in the beginning and did not have the know how anyway. The blood transfusion prohibition was something made up by the Watchtower Society to put more control over their members. It is not in the Holy Bible as a command from God or Jesus. It is only in the imaginations of the Watchtower Society just like their invisible return of Christ in 1914.
"However, things change with increased knowledge and many things prohibited by those in ancient societies are no longer valid today".
So when and where do you think God changed, cancelled or said his law on blood is no longer in effect? When and how did he tell you that?
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20 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75I don't agree with RJHinds on this point, but you chastising him for calling out an opinion based on one scripture is a bit rich considering the flimsy scriptural evidence for your own extreme doctrine and your organisations punitive enforcement of it.
(Acts 10:9-16 NKJV)
Let's also not forget what Jesus said about blood:
For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
So are you saying because Jesus said this we can now eat blood and that God's commands on blood are no loger valid? I hope not as that is not what Jesus was saying at all.
Now can you answer my question on sa ...[text shortened]... ng your childs life with letting them eat blood by mouth if it meant their life was to be saved?
20 Sep 14
Originally posted by menace71
I acknowledge the right of the JWs to believe as they wish. I also comprehend the difference between injesting blood and taking it intravenously and I even acknowledge there is a small but inherent risk in intravenously accepting blood but in many cases it has saved lives when people have lost lots of blood. My dad at one point needed several transfusions o ...[text shortened]... and honestly I don't know the ramifications of it except it doesn't sound pleasant 🙂
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It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.”
Then the disciples *came and *said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?” But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Peter said to Him, “Explain the parable to us.” Jesus said, “Are you still lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated? But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.”
(Matthew 15:11-20 NASB)
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75about the time where we stopped stoning people to death for idiotic laws
"However, things change with increased knowledge and many things prohibited by those in ancient societies are no longer valid today".
So when and where do you think God changed, cancelled or said his law on blood is no longer in effect? When and how did he tell you that?
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75you don't get it yet. i don't want to convince you what you believe is wrong. i am just telling you i won't allow you to murder your children for your beliefs.
I agree 100% Robbie. They wouldn't know a simple bible truth if "slapped them upside their heads".
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by ZahlanziWhew..I'm glad you said that as I was about to murder all my kids today. But not until the football game is over though!!!!!
you don't get it yet. i don't want to convince you what you believe is wrong. i am just telling you i won't allow you to murder your children for your beliefs.
21 Sep 14
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So to the christians here AGAIN I ASK...if your child was dying today within the hour and all you had to give them to save their life right now was a bowl of blood, would you give it to them to save their life right now, knowing clearly what God says in the Bible about blood?
++++I need to clear this up a little by some here who answer. I'm asking for Christians to respond, not anti christ that are here only to destroy the word of God and of his son Jesus.++++
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21 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75Absolutely and without hesitation.
So to the christians here AGAIN I ASK...if your child was dying today within the hour and all you had to give them to save their life right now was a bowl of blood, would you give it to them to save their life right now, knowing clearly what God says in the Bible about blood?
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by RJHindsThe bible condemns murder, drunkeness, the use of blood.
I am trying to point out that God never made a law against blood transfusions in the first place. Man did not have a need to know about blood transfusions in the beginning and did not have the know how anyway. The blood transfusion prohibition was something made up by the Watchtower Society to put more control over their members. It is not in the Holy Bib ...[text shortened]... n the imaginations of the Watchtower Society just like their invisible return of Christ in 1914.
"Do not murder" ( a law established by God )
"Do not get intoxicated" ( a law established by God )
"Abstain from blood" ( a law established by God )
The bible does not mention blood transfusions just as it does not mention driving drunk and hitting someone and killing them as a result with a car.
So going with your theory as the bible does not "specifically" mention driving a car and killing someone while driving drunk, it means this would not be wrong and not actually count as murder, according to you.
So apparently in your eyes and personal opinion this kind of murder is no big deal since the bible does not use those exact words.....Right?
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21 Sep 14
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Originally posted by galveston75You're intellectual dishonesty is astounding; please explain how abstaining from blood is a "law" in the same way that "do not murder" is a law?
The bible condemns murder, drunkeness, the use of blood.
"Do not murder" ( a law established by God )
"Do not get intoxicated" ( a law established by God )
"Abstain from blood" ( a law established by God )
The bible does not mention blood transfusions just as it does not mention driving drunk and hitting someone and killing them as a ...[text shortened]... ion this kind of murder is no big deal since the bible does not use those exact words.....Right?
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75hopefully it won't ever be an issue. if it ever is, hopefully you will do the right thing and not force the authorities to do the right thing for you.
Whew..I'm glad you said that as I was about to murder all my kids today. But not until the football game is over though!!!!!
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75i already responded.
So to the christians here AGAIN I ASK...if your child was dying today within the hour and all you had to give them to save their life right now was a bowl of blood, would you give it to them to save their life right now, knowing clearly what God says in the Bible about blood?
++++I need to clear this up a little by some here who answer. I'm asking fo ...[text shortened]... respond, not anti christ that are here only to destroy the word of God and of his son Jesus.++++
i emphasized the fact that in your weak mind you believe this is a "gotcha" argument when in fact it is so weak nobody bothered to answer.
yes, if it is a medical proven fact that a bowl of blood would save a life, or even slightly alleviate a medical condition, i would eat it like a soup. i would make pudding out of it.
i don't care what the bible says. everything in it is up for scrutiny, and when a book is so wrong about so many things, i would rather not bet my life on it. not to mention that the mosaic law was repealed by jesus, as is proven by the fact that we don't stone people to death.
21 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75"you may sell your daughter into slavery"
The bible condemns murder, drunkeness, the use of blood.
"Do not murder" ( a law established by God )
"Do not get intoxicated" ( a law established by God )
"Abstain from blood" ( a law established by God )
The bible does not mention blood transfusions just as it does not mention driving drunk and hitting someone and killing them as a ...[text shortened]... ion this kind of murder is no big deal since the bible does not use those exact words.....Right?
that too?