KNOWING that God exists

Originally posted by @suzianneAnd if you think that your position is, in any way, a default position, then good for you. You're still wrong.

Santa Clause, tooth fairy, leprechauns. Nessie, et, demons. You know? Doesn't the rational side of your own brain give you pause.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Yeah conveniently so, the atheist can sit back and insist that all other world views need to make a case to support their views, whereas they don't.

Well, taking morality, for example, I have absolutely made a case to support my world view and my analysis of the human condition. The only way you could honestly claim that you are unaware of this, or claim that I had 'sat back' and not done this, is if you had somehow not read hundreds and hundreds of my posts.

Originally posted by @fmf
Well, taking morality, for example, I have absolutely made a case to support my world view and my analysis of the human condition. The only way you could honestly claim that you are unaware of this, or claim that I had 'sat back' and not done this, is if you had somehow not read hundreds and hundreds of my posts.

You mean the case you made where you can't even tell me which society has the correct morals when they contradict each other? Ok.

Originally posted by @fmf
You're entitled to huff and puff about the fact the burden of proof is yours all you want, but the case about magical supernatural beings is yours to make nevertheless.

And you don't have a burden of proof to support your beliefs?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
And you don't have a burden of proof to support your beliefs?

Prove what?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You mean the case you made where you can't even tell me which society has the correct morals when they contradict each other? Ok.

Well then, it seems you did not understand that case I made ~ or perhaps anything I said about morality, and about moral codes contradicting each other ~ if this infantile caricature of it is a genuine attempt by you to paraphrase it. Are you being genuine?

Originally posted by @apathist
Santa Clause, tooth fairy, leprechauns. Nessie, et, demons. You know? Doesn't the rational side of your own brain give you pause.

You do realise that you claiming to be a pagan and worship the goddess of nature and then pumping out your scorn at other people makes you hypocrite, don't you.

Originally posted by @divegeester
You do realise that you claiming to be a pagan and worship the goddess of nature and then pumping out your scorn at other people makes you hypocrite, don't you.

No. The abrahamic religions are kinda special with their hate and intolerance. Secular people love nature too, but they don't love your idiot horrible god.

Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou mean the case you made where you can't even tell me which society has the correct morals when they contradict each other? Ok.

The first thing I thought when I read you. Let's say we meet intelligent aliens, and you are like hey! We get to tell you how to think.

We like to kill stuff and eat them. Must the universe conform?

Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou mean the case you made where you can't even tell me which society has the correct morals when they contradict each other? Ok.

It is up to you. Kinda disturbing you haven't figured this out yet.

Originally posted by @apathist
Holy cow, girl. I miss a lot. So you can demonstrate that God exists.

I bet not. Prove me wrong, all right?

I never said that. In fact I hereby state that proof of God is impossible until it is too late to take him up on the offer he's given us since the resurrection. When he comes back and proves to all that he is the risen Christ, he'll be coming back as the Messiah the Jews have been waiting for, the God-Warrior who will set them free of Satan for eternity. He's not going to be coming for a picnic on the hill with unicorns and rainbows. You won't be able to do much with the proof when you finally do get it. We are justified by faith, not by proof.

I only said that I know God exists. He is manifest in my life. I didn't say that I can make YOU know he exists. I'm sorry that you cannot make the leap of faith to let him show you the way to a better life.

Accepting him or not is your decision, not mine.

Originally posted by @apathist
Santa Clause, tooth fairy, leprechauns. Nessie, et, demons. You know? Doesn't the rational side of your own brain give you pause.

Au contraire. It is the rational side of my brain which convinced me to throw in with this man, this Jesus of Nazareth, the risen Christ, the Redeemer, the Messiah, my Savior.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Au contraire. It is the rational side of my brain which convinced me to throw in with this man, this Jesus of Nazareth, the risen Christ, the Redeemer, the Messiah, my Savior.

Why would the rational side of your brain have you believe in something that you have already stated is impossible to prove?

No disrespect intended, but surely you can see the disparity between 'rational' and 'impossible?' - Surely a rational approach would be to believe nothing until it is proven?

Originally posted by @suzianne
I never said that. In fact I hereby state that proof of God is impossible until it is too late to take him up on the offer he's given us since the resurrection. When he comes back and proves to all that he is the risen Christ, he'll be coming back as the Messiah the Jews have been waiting for, the God-Warrior who will set them free of Satan for eternity. ...[text shortened]... o let him show you the way to a better life.

Accepting him or not is your decision, not mine.

Do you believe that your god has made all this stuff crystal clear and convincing to every human being on earth?

Originally posted by @fmf
Do you believe that your god has made all this stuff crystal clear and convincing to every human being on earth?

Yes. The documentation is there.

If your particular antenna is damaged to the point of not being able to receive that frequency (i.e. not believing it), then that is on you, as well.