Lake of Fire

@sonship said
@Rajk999

Enjoy your gushing. Your place is going to be with Satan and his angels in the lake of fire, because you teach and encourage disobedience to the commandments of Christ.

Cut and paste ONE example of me "encouraging disobedience to the commandments of Christ."

I bet that you won't. That would mean that you bear false witness.

Your silence on the matter of obedience to the commandments is the proof. Those who claim to follow Christ must also preach the commandments of Christ as all the disciples and Apostles did.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19 KJV)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:19-20 KJV)

You preach a dead faith that will end in damnation.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The book of revelation positively wreaks of metaphor.

Who are you sir to cherry pick what to take literally?

Simple this is a description of a future event, nothing about it suggests anything other than that. You think it is a metaphor by all means explain it!

@Rajk999

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19 KJV)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:19-20 KJV)

You preach a dead faith that will end in damnation.

I asked you to cut and paste what I wrote.
You didn't.

Okay, cut and paste me telling someone NOT to obey the great comission of Matthew 28:19-20.

Find an example of me teaching someone to disobey the so-called "Great Commission" (Matt. 28:19,20)

Go!

@kellyjay said
Simple this is a description of a future event, nothing about it suggests anything other than that. You think it is a metaphor by all means explain it!

Fire kills people stone dead and utterly destroys their bodies. It can do it in minutes. Is the fire somehow different in your "future event"?

@FMF

Fire kills people stone dead and utterly destroys their bodies. It can do it in minutes. Is the fire somehow different in your "future event"?

Don't look now, but you just confirmed what you objected to me writing before - Some find scientific impossibility with the concept of eternal punishment.

You said pretty much - "Oh I know of NOBODY who has that objection" [paraphrase]

Do you have a mirror nearby?

Don't look now, but you just confirmed what you objected to me writing before - Some find scientific impossibility with the concept of eternal punishment.

You said pretty much - "Oh I know of NOBODY who has that objection" [paraphrase]

Do you have a mirror nearby?

C'mon FMF. Now explain to us all how it is MY fault.

Don't forget to mention Dasa.

@FMF

So, are you here preaching to the choir, then?

What's wrong with preaching to the choir, if I am?

Its not my fault you can't carry a tune.

I can't remember ANY non-believer here asking you about the "science" of eternal torture.

- FMF

Fire kills people stone dead and utterly destroys their bodies. It can do it in minutes. Is the fire somehow different in your "future event"?

- Same FMF to KellyJay

@sonship said
@Rajk999
[quote] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19 KJV)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, ...[text shortened]... me teaching someone to disobey the so-called "Great Commission" (Matt. 28:19,20)

Go!

Cut and paste where YOU told anyone to follow the commandments of Christ, and that failure to follow the commandments leads to damnation as Jesus said.

You have never done that. Instead you twist the bible in a vain attempt to change what Jesus preached.

You follow a Satanic doctrine of damnation .

@Rajk999

Cut and paste where YOU told anyone to follow the commandments of Christ, and that failure to follow the commandments leads to damnation as Jesus said.

You have never done that. Instead you twist the bible in a vain attempt to change what Jesus preached.

You follow a Satanic doctrine of damnation .

On you previous TWO occassions of bearing false witness you could not give evidence.

Try your third accusation.

Cut and paste where I twist the bible in vain to change what Jesus taught.

Cut and paste your strongest two or even one example in the paste month.

My post and the your highlighting of my TWISTING to change what Jesus taught.

Go!

@sonship said
@Rajk999

Cut and paste where YOU told anyone to follow the commandments of Christ, and that failure to follow the commandments leads to damnation as Jesus said.

You have never done that. Instead you twist the bible in a vain attempt to change what Jesus preached.

You follow a Satanic doctrine of damnation .

On you previous TWO occassions of beari ...[text shortened]... month.

My post and the your highlighting of my TWISTING to change what Jesus taught.

Go!

Did that many many times and you keep ignoring it. I will post this once again. This was posted in the thread 'What is Rajk lacking"

Passages twisted by many Christians:

1. The Beatitudes & Sermon on the Mount- long been the core of the teachings of Christ and a treasure of teachings of Christ designed to encourage humanity and good works, with Jesus actually saying that these actions lead to eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Now it is condemned by Christians as works salvation. Some even suggest that this has nothing to do what Jesus wants Christians to do but it is a description of the life of Christ.

2. The story of the Good Samaritan - A story in response to a question about how to get eternal life. Some Christians claim that this has nothing to do with how to get eternal life but is about Christ and his sacrifice on the cross and his saving of mankind. Not for Christians to follow and emulate is what they claim, ignoring the statement by Christ to go and do likewise.

3. Judgment Day Details in Matt 25 - Christians twist this passage claiming this is not for Christians to worry about but it is what is likely after Armageddon when Christians are fleeing persecution and the nations who help Christ brothers are rewarded with eternal life.

4. 'Lord Lord' Christians of Matt 7- Here is Jesus condemning Christians with the Holy Spirit who think professing faith with the mouth and doing miracles constitutes good works and righteousness. Not so say Christians. For them this is proof that Christians need to 'know Christ' and have a personal relationship with Christ. It has nothing to do with living righteously and following the commandments of Christ.

@Rajk999

Passages twisted by many Christians:

Three strikes already.

You made it personal pertaining to sonship. So show us my posts that you say twisted the teaching of Jesus.

If you can't then you bore false witness, didn't you ?

And saying someone disagreed and offered another interpretation on a passage from you is not necessarily TWISTING at all.

Show me then how I TWISTED anything in Matthew 25:31-46.

I gave another interpretation which I still believe is more accurate then you saying it pertains to the last judgment.

I see the DIFFERENCE. Where is the TWISTING ??

@sonship said
@Rajk999

Passages twisted by many Christians:

Three strikes already.

You made it personal pertaining to sonship. So show us my posts that you say twisted the teaching of Jesus.

If you can't then you bore false witness, didn't you ?

And saying someone disagreed and offered another interpretation on a passage from you is not necessarily TWIST ...[text shortened]... then you saying it pertains to the last judgment.

I see the DIFFERENCE. Where is the TWISTING ??

You are a true Satanic deceiver to your bone. In the last decade, tell me ONE thread that you started which dealt with following the commandments of Christ AND how it pertains to eternal life in the Kingdm of God.

There are none.

Your dead faith will end you up in the eternal torment that you wish on the nonChristians.

@Rajk999

You are a true Satanic deceiver to your bone. In the last decade, tell me ONE thread that you started which dealt with following the commandments of Christ AND how it pertains to eternal life in the Kingdm of God.

There are none.

Your dead faith will end you up in the eternal torment that you wish on the nonChristians.

So in one moment you side with those who deny this eternal punishment. But in another moment you pass sentence on me that for sure that is what is going to happen to me because of how I teach.

Which is it - there is no damnation OR there is damnation for me because of alleged wrong twisting of the gospel?

@sonship said
Don't look now, but you just confirmed what you objected to me writing before - Some find scientific impossibility with the concept of eternal punishment.

I see what you mean, but my point was not about "scientific impossibility"; my point was about whether or not the "description" KellyJay was talking about - about "fire" in a "future event" - is metaphorical or literal.

That was what Ghost of a Duke and KellyJay were talking about. And that was what my comment related to: whether the "fire" and the "event" are a literary device.

KellyJay asked for an explanation of how the "fire" could be a metaphor. Take a look at what I was responding to. He said, "You think it is a metaphor by all means explain it!"

If the reality of fire was being used to symbolize something else, then what would be the objection to explaining it as being a metaphor rather than a literal "description".