Originally posted by Grampy BobbySuch chicanery, Gramps! It becomes you. 😉
[b]"No matter the laws of physics or the nature of reality... 2+2 will always = 4"
Untrue, depends on the nature of the axiom's dynamics and unit of measure.
RE: Two male rabbits plus two female rabbits may equal a million more rabbits.
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The truth value of 2+2=4 is invariant under any transformation of physical laws. I think Googlefudge was plain about that. There are no units of measure, because it is understood that "2" is the integer 2, "+" is the operation of integer addition, and "=" indicates purely numerical equality.
No bunnies.
No "axiomatic dynamics" (not sure what that even means).
Originally posted by RJHindsDidn't you hear?
Didn't you hear? The Christ arose from the dead and ascended into the third heaven. He promised to one day return to rule the world from Jerusalem.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Yes. The Western world has had it rammed down their throats, but those that think dismis the fairy stories
The Christ arose from the dead and ascended into the third heaven
The "third" heaven? Good for him!
He promised to one day return to rule the world from Jerusalem
one day ... 😴 ...
I promise one day to return from the dead and rule the world from Milton Keynes.
(Just in case you miss the point - JC and I are equal on our promises ... neither disproved)
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAnd you prove you don't understand mathematics.
[b]"No matter the laws of physics or the nature of reality... 2+2 will always = 4"
Untrue, depends on the nature of the axiom's dynamics and unit of measure.
RE: Two male rabbits plus two female rabbits may equal a million more rabbits.
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the NUMBER 2 + the NUMBER 2 will ALWAYS = the NUMBER 4
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobbylets say i trust x 100% and then x disappears, the trust i have in them becomes redundant, no longer needed and therefore disregarded. we not have to transfer the trust to something else, like we all have quantifiable limited amount of trust, that we must utilize at all times.
Do you suppose we could please get back on topic?
[b]Let's say there is no Christ...
"If so, then in whom or what would you (and your family) place your confidence and trust?"
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Originally posted by stellspalfieOkay. Suggests your trust may have been misplaced. If it's a car, you would replace it; a doctor who screwed up on one off your kids, you find a better one; a neighborhood that becomes crime ridden, you relocate. You begin in a position of weakness and eventually make good decisions from a position of strength.
lets say i trust x 100% and then x disappears, the trust i have in them becomes redundant, no longer needed and therefore disregarded. we not have to transfer the trust to something else, like we all have quantifiable limited amount of trust, that we must utilize at all times.
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobbyim a little confused. in your hypothetical question are we to imagine that christ has never existed and we have always known this, or that one day we all realize there is no jesus? the difference is important to the question.
Okay. Suggests your trust may have been misplaced. If it's a car, you would replace it; a doctor who screwed up on one off your kids, you find a better one; a neighborhood that becomes crime ridden, you relocate. You begin in a position of weakness and eventually make good decisions from a position of strength.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieToo fatigued to do justice to your question. Time for a nap. Cold these nights.
im a little confused. in your hypothetical question are we to imagine that christ has never existed and we have always known this, or that one day we all realize there is no jesus? the difference is important to the question.
Need some pajamas with a nice hood and scarf, rabbit ears and footies. Ha,
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobbyif god had wanted us to be warm, he would have designed us with a thick, insulating fur coat and retractable genitals!!!
Too fatigued to do justice to your question. Time for a nap. Cold these nights.
Need some pajamas with a nice hood and scarf, rabbit ears and footies. Ha,
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyPrecisely the same set of people I trusted before it was firmly established there was no Christ. Indeed I am absolutely sure, beyond all need of checking that your "G"od, and "Christ" does not exist.
[b]Let's say there is no Christ...
If so, then in whom or what would you (and your family) place your confidence and trust?[/b]
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Originally posted by stellspalfiea)"im a little confused. in your hypothetical question are we to imagine that christ has never existed."
a)im a little confused. in your hypothetical question are we to imagine that christ has never existed b)and we have always known this,
c)or that one day we all realize there is no jesus? d)the difference is important to the question.
Yes. OP premise asserts His existence within the faith/belief clusters of some.
Thread seeks to explore alternative possibilites if, in fact, He doesn't.
b)"and we have always known this,"
No. Premise also establishes that the hypothetical introduces something new.
c)"or that one day we all realize there is no jesus?"
Interesting and encouraging that your thinking has evolved this far into future time periods.
However, in that "one day" we will certainly all realize there is a personal Jesus Christ.
d)"... the difference is important to the question."
Yup. Its importance is crucial (now) to choosing between the authentic, real deal and fictious frauds which have populated
all manmade religions, bar none, since Day One in Eden. Long term, eternal consequences of getting it wrong are horrific.
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