Spirituality
15 Jan 22
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@josephw saidLet me summarise for you.
I've decided, after reading and laughing, that I'd rather remain confused than try and cipher out the meaning and purpose of this thread.
Too much cryptographic mud slinging.
-KellyJay says he likes Jordan Peterson
- Suzianne immediately finds herself a few degrees bent out of shape, probably due to the fact that Peterson is a promoter of the positive male psyche in the contemporary world, and complained that the video clip appeared a bit doom and gloomy
- KellyJayy pointed out that she was missing the point; which she ostensibly was as she just rocked up to say something negative about “Jordan Peterson” but was too lazy to look into the message itself.
- Suzianne then plays the victim card, accusing KellyJay (completely unfairly of course) of sexism.
Nothing else is of interest.
17 Jan 22
@divegeester saidOh, I get it. It's a drama. Somebody says something another is offended about and feelings get hurt and people hold grudges and then the whole thing starts over again in a new thread.
Let me summarise for you.
-KellyJay says he likes Jordan Peterson
- Suzianne immediately finds herself a few degrees bent out of shape, probably due to the fact that Peterson is a promoter of the positive male psyche in the contemporary world, and complained that the video clip appeared a bit doom and gloomy
- KellyJayy pointed out that she was missing the point; wh ...[text shortened]... m card, accusing KellyJay (completely unfairly of course) of sexism.
Nothing else is of interest.
Better than watching television.
17 Jan 22
@kevin-eleven saidNot always, do you think you are?
It's unlikely that @Suzianne would ever miss the point. I also imagine that she is always aware of the surrounds. Are you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkN_qkN5JLQ
@josephw saidIt's a microcosm of life on speed...There are more grudges held here per head of population than on the Israeli - Palestine border. Friendships are made, (I've made a couple which are for life) , and even this can offend other people; people even evict other people from clubs for befriending 'the wrong people' . As far as I know nobody's fallen in love yet, although I'm prepared to be corrected on this.
Oh, I get it. It's a drama. Somebody says something another is offended about and feelings get hurt and people hold grudges and then the whole thing starts over again in a new thread.
Better than watching television.
18 Jan 22
@indonesia-phil saidWe are left with only offenses, grudges, and no hope of recovering anything other than hate and discontentment in a world without grace.
It's a microcosm of life on speed...There are more grudges held here per head of population than on the Israeli - Palestine border. Friendships are made, (I've made a couple which are for life) , and even this can offend other people; people even evict other people from clubs for befriending 'the wrong people' . As far as I know nobody's fallen in love yet, although I'm prepared to be corrected on this.
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18 Jan 22
@indonesia-phil saidWhile other people can tell a poster they “are surprised they haven’t be knifed or shot” or even accuse another of trying to get another poster to commit suicide… and they get invited back into said clubs they’ve been booted from for being too annoying.
Friendships are made, and even this can offend other people; people even evict other people from clubs for befriending 'the wrong people'
It’s a strange set of ethics.
@kellyjay saidIn that video clip, Jordan Peterson was pitching himself at people with your mindset with regard to "no hope" and "hate" and "discontentment" etc. etc.
We are left with only offenses, grudges, and no hope of recovering anything other than hate and discontentment in a world without grace.
18 Jan 22
@divegeester saidI would have used the words "I" or "me" had been referring to just myself.
When you say “we” I presume you are referring you just yourself?
18 Jan 22
@fmf saidIn this world, we will have tribulation; as a Christian, my hope is in Christ because he overcame the world. Things that are not good will inevitably happen around us or to us, but these things are still common to man. As we deal with them and each other can cause us to become embittered, hateful no different than when someone willfully harms us or someone we love. Questioning his motivation isn't dealing with what he was saying, but that happens a lot here, with not just you, but with us (including me), and I think that robs us of looking at things as we should when we look at the person over the things being said.
In that video clip, Jordan Peterson was pitching himself at people with your mindset with regard to "no hope" and "hate" and "discontentment" etc. etc.
@kellyjay saidBut I have dealt with what he was saying.
Questioning his motivation isn't dealing with what he was saying
His message [and his messages generally speaking about "God"] are for misery-guts, defeatist, misanthropic rightwing Christians.
I have also said that if belief in a God figure gives a person a sense of structure and meaning in life ~ in the face of the tribulations Peterson talks about ~ I don't see any harm in it.
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18 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidSo when you posted:
I would have used the words "I" or "me" had been referring to just myself.
”We are left with only offenses, grudges, and no hope of recovering anything other than hate and discontentment in a world without grace.”
You were presuming to speak for all of us here?
20 Jan 22
@fmf saidHe certainly knows his audience.
Jordan Peterson: Jesus is "too terrifying a reality to fully believe"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvjZoqhiuw
Love him or loathe him, or something in between, he is an interesting and provocative figure.