Love your enemies

Originally posted by whodey
In the Greek language there are 5 kinds of love. I looking more at agape, that is, simply treating people the way you would wish to be treated.

I take it you don't speak Greek.

Originally posted by whodey
There is nothing natural about it, hence the term supernatural.

Cool. I just ran outside naked. Clearly not a natural thing to do. I must be supernatural!

Originally posted by whodey
So is it a foolish philosophy?

Yes or no?

Like I said, any philosophy can lead people to fool themselves or make fools of themselves.

Originally posted by yoctobyte
why hmmmm? do you agree or disagree?

Agree/disagree with what specifically?

Originally posted by whodey
Is this a philosophy for fools?

Whether it is or not, its not a philosophy you follow. You never show any love for Obama.

Originally posted by whodey
Is this a philosophy for fools?

It is the philosophy of those who have no other choice.

Originally posted by whodey
Is this a philosophy for fools?

What do you mean by 'love'?

IMO Jesus used an exaggerated word to shake people up and get them to question their assumptions. He did not mean you love them to the extent of a trusted friend, or family member, or lover, or partner. He just meant that you keep a certain standard of kindness even around your enemies.

Go ahead, tell me why I'm wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
He just meant that you keep a certain standard of kindness even around your enemies.)

I disagree. Love is a feeling not a rule. Jesus to a large extent promoted the discarding of rules to be followed and instead focused on the emotional aspects of things and your knowledge of right and wrong as opposed to what the law says is right and wrong. Jesus strikes me as the kind of person who would and probably did, love his enemies in the true sense of the word.

There are Buddhists who practice felling love and I believe they too can love their enemies.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
What do you mean by 'love'?

IMO Jesus used an exaggerated word to shake people up and get them to question their assumptions. He did not mean you love them to the extent of a trusted friend, or family member, or lover, or partner. He just meant that you keep a certain standard of kindness even around your enemies.

Go ahead, tell me why I'm wrong. 🙂

Jesus gave the example of the Good Samaratan as an example of the type of love he is talking about.

In case some don't know, the Samaratan should have been the last person to help the Jew in question, because they were natural enemies at that time. Interestingly, the Samaratan was not even able to converse with the stanger. All he did was scoop him up and take him for some help and paid for that help.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Whether it is or not, its not a philosophy you follow. You never show any love for Obama.

Obama is an empty suit.

My intentions are to challenge a government that I feel is oppressive in many ways and increasingly becoming worse.

As in Jesus' day, the world leaders are the ones who hold the wealth and the power and oppress the poor.

Not much has changed except perhaps the demagoguery. Jesus was not very kind to them either. He called them out on a daily basis

Originally posted by whodey
Obama is an empty suit.

My intentions are to challenge a government that I feel is oppressive in many ways and increasingly becoming worse.

As in Jesus' day, the world leaders are the ones who hold the wealth and the power and oppress the poor.

Not much has changed except perhaps the demagoguery. Jesus was not very kind to them either. He called them out on a daily basis

Do you think Jesus would disapprove of the way the Obama administration has reduced the number of illegal immigrants crossing into the U.S., the way it has increased the number of illegal immigrants being deported from the U.S., and the way it is now planning to grant an amnesty for those who have lived and worked in the U.S. for many years?

Originally posted by whodey
Jesus gave the example of the Good Samaratan as an example of the type of love he is talking about.

In case some don't know, the Samaratan should have been the last person to help the Jew in question, because they were natural enemies at that time. Interestingly, the Samaratan was not even able to converse with the stanger. All he did was scoop him up and take him for some help and paid for that help.

OK, so that covers what Jesus means - but my question was, what do you mean by 'love your enemies'?

If it's the same thing as what Jesus means, then I can go along with that, and answer the question of the OP: The philosophy of loving one's enemy is not foolish. On the contrary, at times it is the humanitarian thing to do.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you think Jesus would disapprove of the way the Obama administration has reduced the number of illegal immigrants crossing into the U.S., the way it has increased the number of illegal immigrants being deported from the U.S., and the way it is now planning to grant an amnesty for those who have lived and worked in the U.S. for many years?

Well that is a tough one.

The scripture says to honor the laws but the leaders don't mind the laws, so where does that leave us? 😕

Originally posted by whodey
Well that is a tough one.

Answer it anyway.

You appear to be claiming that your opposition to Obama is modelled on Jesus.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
OK, so that covers what [b]Jesus means - but my question was, what do you mean by 'love your enemies'?

If it's the same thing as what Jesus means, then I can go along with that, and answer the question of the OP: The philosophy of loving one's enemy is not foolish. On the contrary, at times it is the humanitarian thing to do.[/b]

Yes, Jesus is who I had in mind.

So do you feel like those who love their enemies are taken advantage of?