Mediator between spiritual and sensual

@fmf said
Run the numbers.

Don't you think Beethoven ~ and his music and people playing his music and concerts of his music staged by charities, royalties, donations, benefits, fund-raising pro-bono performances, musicians being employed, paying taxes etc. etc. ~ might have generated more money for the purposes of alleviating poverty than you have? Don't you think Ludwig Van Beet ...[text shortened]... otprint vis a vis the poor and starving might be a bigger one than yours, if one "runs the numbers"?

Don't be deceived by the put on show by the rich and affluent. Everyone knows we'll never feed the world. But we could if...

It's none of your business how much I give to alleviate the need of the poor, but if everyone in the world that has to give gave the same percentage of their abundance as I there wouldn't be anyone starving to death.

@fmf said
When it comes to music, art and literature, would you describe yourself as a philistine?

Would you describe yourself as hyperbolic poster?

@fmf said
And yet at the top of this page, you seem to be suggesting that he should have been doing something when he was alive to help provide food for "the millions and millions of people" that starved to death.

No. That's what you seem to think I'm saying. You're simply re-juxtapositioning the words, their meanings and intent to arrive at a convoluted meaning not consistent with the context in which they're found for the apparent purpose of furthering your agenda which is to derail coherent, meaningful and purposeful discourse, as well as stroking your sense of intellectual superiority.

@secondson said
Would you describe yourself as hyperbolic poster?

No. Not at all. I'd describe my posting as cogent and measured.

@fmf said
What is your answer to this question?

I'd need to know first where the idea that there is a divide between the spiritual and the sensual life came from.

Don't you think?

Is it speculation? Or is there information that indicates there is a divide?

@secondson said
.It's none of your business how much I give to alleviate the need of the poor, but if everyone in the world that has to give gave the same percentage of their abundance as I there wouldn't be anyone starving to death.

I am not asking for details. But clearly you are not denying that you might believe your footprint vis a vis alleviating the predicament faced by the poor and starving might be a bigger one than Beethoven's, if one were to "run the numbers", which you asked me to do.

@secondson said
I'd need to know first where the idea that there is a divide between the spiritual and the sensual life came from.

Don't you think?

Is it speculation? Or is there information that indicates there is a divide?

I take it you are just not going to answer. Fair enough.

@secondson said
No. That's what you seem to think I'm saying. You're simply re-juxtapositioning the words, their meanings and intent to arrive at a convoluted meaning not consistent with the context in which they're found for the apparent purpose of furthering your agenda which is to derail coherent, meaningful and purposeful discourse, as well as stroking your sense of intellectual superiority.

With your comments about yourself, about Beethoven, and about the "millions starving", you appear to be engaging in some very, very odd virtue signalling.

@secondson said
Don't be deceived by the put on show by the rich and affluent. Everyone knows we'll never feed the world. But we could if...

When it comes to music, art and literature, would you describe yourself as a philistine?

@fmf said
No. Not at all. I'd describe my posting as cogent and measured.

I'd agree with that, but you also go to unnecessary extremes in the sense that you drift from center and thereby lose the thread of thought relative to the topic of discussion without including a transitional connecting bridge of thought.

The discussion gets out of hand and it seems sometimes as though you're doing it deliberately.

@fmf said
When it comes to music, art and literature, would you describe yourself as a philistine?

Geez! What does being a Philistine have to do with art, music and literature?

@fmf said
With your comments about yourself, about Beethoven, and about the "millions starving", you appear to be engaging in some very, very odd virtue signalling.

This is what I mean by my post above. You go overboard by introducing into the narrative of any given discussion your psycho-babbling and hyperbolical insertions of language not inclusive with a coherent train of thought consistent with the content and context of the topic of discussion.

I think your problem is you think you know too much.

@secondson said
I'd agree with that, but you also go to unnecessary extremes in the sense that you drift from center and thereby lose the thread of thought relative to the topic of discussion without including a transitional connecting bridge of thought..

Just because you are talking to me, you shouldn't feel the need to produce word salad like this.

@secondson said
This is what I mean by my post above. You go overboard by introducing into the narrative of any given discussion your psycho-babbling and hyperbolical insertions of language not inclusive with a coherent train of thought consistent with the content and context of the topic of discussion.

A question about Beethoven's music has rapidly led to you talking about your own efforts to feed the starving. If that isn't virtue signalling, nothing is.

@secondson said
Geez! What does being a Philistine have to do with art, music and literature?

Do you not know what the word "philistine" means?