Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeHis focus seems to be on the idea of gay marriage as being a fantasy rather than on the gay lifestyle itself. I've already given my own opinion on the marriage aspect, and have decided to not get mired down in the cause part of that particular argument.
As expected from you, a rational reply.
And yes, i have asked him for clarity on his statement:
"I am not confused to realize when someone is pretending to act as someone of the opposite sex physiologically and psychologically. And that is what same sex marriage is, a form of pretending - a fantasy."
The causes involve both nature and nurture, and is far too complex an issue to be nailed down as being predominately one or the other. However, I happen to be aware of the family structure of some gays I've met and talked to, and couldn't help but notice some striking similarities that differ significantly from family structures where homosexuality is rare to non-existent. I believe pinning homosexuality on genetics is mostly self serving and junk science at best, because there are too many common family and social factors at work to ignore environmental pressures as being a cause.
But this is a very hot potato political/social issue, and I feel an unusually strong aversion (phobia?) to boobs who are not at all shy about shoveling the truth under the porch in favor of whatever political/social convenience they hold dear to their hearts.
So no one need bother to inquire further on this, because this all I have to say about it.
Originally posted by lemon limeYes, a hot potato indeed. i was though drawn into the debate by the (strange) notion of it being a choice or pretense. Is hard wired the same as genetics? I'm not sure.
But this is a very hot potato political/social issue, and I feel an unusually strong aversion (phobia?) to boobs who are not at all shy about shoveling the truth under the porch in favor of whatever political/social convenience they hold dear to their hearts.
Anyway, tell us more about this aversion you have to boobs...
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYou're full of surprises. I didn't anticipate anyone asking about my aversion to boobs.
Yes, a hot potato indeed. i was though drawn into the debate by the (strange) notion of it being a choice or pretense. Is hard wired the same as genetics? I'm not sure.
Anyway, tell us more about this aversion you have to boobs...
It's not a fear or a phobia. It's more like an aversion to having to endure some dreary drama queens blathering on about what he prefers doing along with whatever specious self serving reasoning he can drag up to support his position... and please, no wisecracks about what position he might happen to prefer, okay?
There are enough heterosexual drama queens here to keep anyone busy, so I'm definitely not interested in talking to any MORE of them.
-Removed-Hit a nerve did I?* [see explanatory note below]
* the above is a direct quote from you to Suzi taken from a few pages back in this thread
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I said I'm not interested in talking to drama queens right now, so what gives? Did you think it was meant as an open invitation for more of your insane inpoot**?
Believe it or not, my being called an asshat by a reactive fool who enjoys playing domination games doesn't have nearly the sort of impact you might have been hoping for... you make it easy for me to shrug this off, because all I need to do is consider the source.
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10 Jul 15
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeOh, yeah, I remember reading that and wondering where that came from too. He seems to think that, in a homosexual relationship, one person must be pretending to be the other gender (not that one is pretending to be gay) because after all, every relationship is one man/one woman, so if there are two men, then one MUST be pretending to be the "woman", and similarly, if there are two women, then one MUST be pretending to be the "man". This just shows a marked misunderstanding of the relationship dynamics in a homosexual relationship.
As expected from you, a rational reply.
And yes, i have asked him for clarity on his statement:
"I am not confused to realize when someone is pretending to act as someone of the opposite sex physiologically and psychologically. And that is what same sex marriage is, a form of pretending - a fantasy."
Originally posted by lemon limePerhaps an unfortunate choice of words, especially considering the topic? 🙂
But this is a very hot potato political/social issue, and I feel an unusually strong aversion (phobia?) to boobs who are not at all shy about shoveling the truth under the porch in favor of whatever political/social convenience they hold dear to their hearts.
I mean, exactly how deep IS your "phobia to boobs"?
(Disclaimer: I'm just joshing you, man, don't get upset. )
(Edit: Bah, scooped again. )
Originally posted by SuzianneI suspect he intentionally lobbed that one up for us to smash.
Perhaps an unfortunate choice of words, especially considering the topic? 🙂
I mean, exactly how deep IS your "phobia to boobs"?
(Disclaimer: I'm just joshing you, man, don't get upset. )
(Edit: Bah, scooped again. )
Originally posted by SuzianneNo, no, that's okay... I'm actually glad you asked, because it gives me the opportunity to clear up any possible misunderstanding about my use of the word 'boob'.
Perhaps an unfortunate choice of words, especially considering the topic? 🙂
I mean, exactly how deep IS your "phobia to boobs"?
(Disclaimer: I'm just joshing you, man, don't get upset. )
(Edit: Bah, scooped again. )
It wasn't until Ghost brought this up that I realized how some people might have thought I was referring to the more common definition of 'boob'. Seeing as how this is now out in the open and the question has been asked (regarding my opinion of mammary glands) I firmly feel with strong feelings that this question is most probably deserving of an honest answer.
I can assure you that I have absolutely no aversion to those things, those boob things. You know, boobies. Aw crap... I mean breasts!
However, I must admit that I'm not nearly as attracted to the baby food dispensary portion of the female form as some men appear to be. In fact, it seems kind of weird to me that some men might find that feature even more attractive than...
But I've probably said enough about this. Anyway, thanks for bringing this to my attention, and for giving me the opportunity to clear up any misconception in regard to my own personal preferences....
Yeowza!