Originally posted by FMFIf its an unsubstantiated belief or 'observation', as you say FMF then just say so. I do
Don't you have any observations of your own? Do you have nothing to offer on this matter?
not think it can be the case, for example what virtue does Satanism have, or what
virtue is there in offering human sacrifice to appease some God because of lack of
rainfall? or the self indulgence of shamans etc
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo now you disagree with me? A moment ago you said "I do not agree or disagree".
If its an unsubstantiated belief or 'observation', as you say FMF then just say so. I do
not think it can be the case, for example what virtue does Satanism have, or what
virtue is there in offering human sacrifice to appease some God because of lack of
rainfall? or the self indulgence of shamans etc
Originally posted by FMFYou asked for my thoughts, i have given them, with references, you may make
So now you disagree with me? A moment ago you said "I do not agree or disagree".
reference to those, as for your assertions, you have provided no details as to how, why
or what it comprises, despite repeated attempts to ascertain on what it is based, i must
conclude that its naught but another opinion, unsubstantiated and piled up high, bolted
together with assumption and standing high as an edifice to mere opinion! Its not
about you FMF, its about the content of your posts.
Originally posted by FMFso there is no virtue in Satanism and your statement that there is good in all religions is
As far as I know, there is no 'ideal of being good' in Satanism, at least not the same kind of "good" that is at the core of pretty much all religions.
now false? please let me stand upon this heap of posts and crow like a cockerel in the
morning!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd I have given you my thoughts too. Nothing you have said so far has caused me to alter what I have shared with you about my own observations.
You asked for my thoughts, i have given them, with references, you may make
reference to those, as for your assertions, you have provided no details as to how, why
or what it comprises, despite repeated attempts to ascertain on what it is based, i must
conclude that its naught but another opinion, unsubstantiated and piled up high, bolted
tog ...[text shortened]... gh as an edifice to mere opinion! Its not
about you FMF, its about the content of your posts.
When, at the bottom of the previous page, you said "[you] do not agree or disagree" with my observation, you weren't being entirely straight with me, were you?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut robbie, as you well know, I do not say "there is good in all religions". I said that that the ideal of 'being good' is at the core of pretty much all religions.
so there is no virtue in Satanism and your statement that there is good in all religions is
now false?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are entitled to think what you want about my observation. I haven't been trying to change your mind. You are reacting to this as if I am trying to impose something on you or trying to persuade you in some way.
i must conclude that its naught but another opinion, unsubstantiated and piled up high, bolted together with assumption and standing high as an edifice to mere opinion!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieEvidence that it is not Bona fide? any? no, if you walk into a bar with currency the barman has to accept it unless he has evidence that it is not Bona fide.
I am sorry, did you say assumption? oh dear! we are dealing in assumptions,
bartender will you take my currency, its not really bone fide, its an assumption of value!
why is asking for substantiating evidence obtuse, you have not explained.
Do you see Robbie, or are you running the blind man scam again?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"If its an unsubstantiated belief or 'observation', as you say FMF then just say so. I do
If its an unsubstantiated belief or 'observation', as you say FMF then just say so. I do
not think it can be the case, for example what virtue does Satanism have, or what
virtue is there in offering human sacrifice to appease some God because of lack of
rainfall? or the self indulgence of shamans etc
not think it can be the case, for example what virtue does Satanism have, or what
virtue is there in offering human sacrifice to appease some God because of lack of
rainfall? or the self indulgence of shamans etc"
Or
Not having a blood transfusion because big man in sky tells you not to.
Originally posted by kevcvs57To be fair to robbie, he has already stated that the teaching of Jesus contradicts my belief that 'being good' is at the core of the Christian religion. Indeed, robbie used the quote that kicked off this thread to substantiate his claim that my view about the position of 'being good' in Christianity was contradicted by Jesus. In fact, I believe it is that exchange that gave rise to this thread.
Not having a blood transfusion because big man in sky tells you not to.
Originally posted by FMFBe fair to Robbie? I am sorry fmf that does not compute 🙂
To be fair to robbie, he has already stated that the teaching of Jesus contradicts my belief that 'being good' is at the core of the Christian religion. Indeed, robbie used the quote that kicked off this thread to substantiate his claim that my view about the position of 'being good' in Christianity was contradicted by Jesus. In fact, I believe it is that exchange that gave rise to this thread.
Has anyone suggested that the word 'good' might have inadvertently replaced the word 'perfect' during translation?