23 Jan 07
Originally posted by twhiteheadsound answer!
Perfection is a relative word. What is perfect to you may be imperfect to another. If everything created by some mythical being is created the way he wanted it then it is perfect to him, whatever your personal opinion might be.
The real question is: If you want something to have two logically incompatible attributes then is it still possible to make it? ...[text shortened]... eems to get of the hook somewhere in mid discussion and is excused from making the imperfection.
23 Jan 07
Originally posted by Bosse de Nagesure
Can you give me an example of something perfect?
To me, this adjective is meaningful only if applied to a noun: "a perfect woman", we might say, and go on to discuss what constitutes her perfection.
We could say that God is a perfect God, but I don't think that would get us very far.
I think this defenition comes closest to what I mean.
"a quality, trait, or feature of the highest degree of excellence."
I understand that "a perfect woman" is different to everyone. But on the other hand we all understand what you are meaning. Therefor I think it wouldn't be wise to further discuss the defenition of perfection. It is just the simple "perfection" which everybody understands.
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by metbieropmetbierop, One(you) must accept on some authority or one(you) will never find the Truth!
well if God created nothing that's imperfect then he did not create human did he?
Or do you have the statement that we are perfect?
Gen 1:31a And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold,it was very good.
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by josephwI think many people don't find the truth.
metbierop, One(you) must accept on some authority or one(you) will never find the Truth!
Gen 1:31a And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold,it was very good.
Why do you think I don't accept some authority?
I'm just pointing out contradixions.
You're quoting from the bible. I don't think this is a very solid argument. Unless you also accept that other people (me for example) also start quoting from the bible to disprove your argument.
24 Jan 07
Originally posted by metbieropThat is true, most people are unaware of the Truth. I'm using a capital T because I'm talking about The Truth and not just any truth. And I'm not saying I know all the Truth.
I think many people don't find the truth.
Why do you think I don't accept some authority?
I'm just pointing out contradixions.
You're quoting from the bible. I don't think this is a very solid argument. Unless you also accept that other people (me for example) also start quoting from the bible to disprove your argument.
I apologize. I thought about what I had said after I posted it and thought you might misunderstand what I ment. And I assure you that it was not intended to be judgement of you in any way. I think I was trying to assert that Truth, at least for me, is dependant upon who or what is making a claim to Truth.
Also, I welcome any constructive criticism of anything I write.
If you would like to I am certianly willing to see if you can find any contradictions in the Bible. But, if you do, I would ask that we take it slowly, and not start with long lists of apparent contradictions. Please just one axample at a time.
Be advised I am a two finger typer and relatively unschooled and ignorant. But, at the risk of sounding arrogant, I know the Truth.
25 Jan 07
Originally posted by josephwBefore going any further please define what you mean by "the Bible".
Also, I welcome any constructive criticism of anything I write.
If you would like to I am certianly willing to see if you can find any contradictions in the Bible. But, if you do, I would ask that we take it slowly, and not start with long lists of apparent contradictions. Please just one axample at a time.
Are you referring to
1. a specific translation
2. all translations
3. the oldest known version
4. a non-existent (currently) original text or texts
5. your interpretation of it
6. other
If you your answer is 1 - 3 then there are many contradictions that can be listed and you will be unable to explain them away without invoking 5. that is making a claim that the actual meaning of the text is significantly different from the commonly understood meaning of said text. (and can probably only be understood by those wearing Secret Decoder Rings or some other mind altering device).