02 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieVery nicely said Robbie. My dreams are to be rich one day - who really hasn't got or had that dream but for my dreams to come true, things drastically will need to change. But that is not what I want now but wouldn't mind if I was.
yes i am, its rather interesting to say the least. Are we to attribute our friends salary increase to divine intervention? who can say? What do the scriptures indicate, with regard to material things and the Christian perspective?
(Matthew 6:31-32) . . .So never be anxious and say, ‘What are we to eat?’ or, ‘What are we to drink?’ or, ‘What are ...[text shortened]... rk so i could spend more time with my family, for what price shall one put on a day of life?
02 Jul 11
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Originally posted by Nickstennah nah my friend, forget about riches, look after your wife and family, spend time with your kids, when your old and grey your riches will mock you, Billionaire Getty stated the following,
Very nicely said Robbie. My dreams are to be rich one day - who really hasn't got or had that dream but for my dreams to come true, things drastically will need to change. But that is not what I want now but wouldn't mind if I was.
"I hate to be a failure. I hate and regret the failure of my marriages. I would gladly give all my millions for just one last marital success."
Interesting perspective on the relative value of riches to a happy family 🙂
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatyes but Christ was not averse to using hyperbole, 'it would be better for the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah than for this generation', etc if one looks at the context clearly it was the young mans evaluation of the relative value of riches that held him back, relative to a life as a disciple of Christ. He simply could not live without them, they gave him his identity. Its really interesting, do we really need material things with which to seek a personal identity, this car makes me awesome? I have thirteen bathrooms, i am da man?
Literal word of god, isn't it?
02 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMaybe so, but I think the message here is pretty clear. I certainly think that someone who professes his dreams of becoming rich is a long way from understanding what Jesus was about.
yes but Christ was not averse to using hyperbole, 'it would be better for the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah than for this generation', etc
02 Jul 11
Originally posted by avalanchethecatyes indeed, however one must also view it in a cultural context, for I am aware that American Christians are likely to view material prosperity as a 'sign', of divine favour. Its kind of etched into their psyche, partly because of their history me thinks.
Maybe so, but I think the message here is pretty clear. I certainly think that someone who professes his dreams of becoming rich is a long way from understanding what Jesus was about.
02 Jul 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're right, this barely-contained lust for material wealth seems to have originated in the States, or at least grown large there before spreading abroad. It does seem to be difficult to reconcile with the christian ideal. But then much about modern interpretations of christianity seems wide of the message to me.
yes indeed, however one must also view it in a cultural context, for I am aware that American Christians are likely to view material prosperity as a 'sign', of divine favour. Its kind of etched into their psyche, partly because of their history me thinks.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatYes, we agree again, it seems to me that they can be extremely right wing with their Christianity, in fact, its quite scary in some instances even leading to militant groups, in the UK, its kind of the opposite, its a much softer approach. Then again we have seen in Latin America, the rise of extreme left wing Christianity, with liberation theology. One is indeed left wondering what Jesus would make of it all.
You're right, this barely-contained lust for material wealth seems to have originated in the States, or at least grown large there before spreading abroad. It does seem to be difficult to reconcile with the christian ideal. But then much about modern interpretations of christianity seems wide of the message to me.
02 Jul 11
Originally posted by ChessPraxiswut? my goodness man, are you not a southern gentleman, used to duels and fighting for the honour of ladies? well then, the shrew must be tamed! see to it and no more wussing out on me! 300 rating points of a difference is nothing! i get beat up by 1400's all the time!
I am no challenge for skeeter. 😞